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Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 06:19 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I would say no. You could use a lower grade steel...

I would say no. You could use a lower grade steel if hardened and treated properly to resist gas cutting and wear. This is my opinion only. I have no facts to support that.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 06:15 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

[quote=SJAdventures;3796435]Ok it is conceded...

[quote=SJAdventures;3796435]Ok it is conceded that Grade 8 steel is much harder than 18-8 SS.

Thank You
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 06:01 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Don't worry, you will figure out.

Don't worry, you will figure out.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 05:58 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Its very simple. I have said from the beginning...

Its very simple. I have said from the beginning that 18-8 is cheap,soft and weak compared to grade 8 steel.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 05:46 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Be safe my friend. It is all supplied in writing...

Be safe my friend. It is all supplied in writing for you to read.I can no way make it any easier for you.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 05:43 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

That's what I did as well. Then stuck it in an...

That's what I did as well. Then stuck it in an Elite stock. I still have not got used to the 27" barrel.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 05:27 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

All you need to do is read your own chart. Those...

All you need to do is read your own chart. Those steel bolts are non hardened. As you can clearly read, stainless is significantly weaker then a hardened grade 2 steel.

I think most people...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 04:55 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Maybe i need glasses. Stainless Steel ...

Maybe i need glasses.

Stainless Steel
Stainless steel is an alloy of low carbon steel and chromium for enhanced corrosion characteristics. Stainless steel is highly corrosion resistant...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 03:58 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Sorry man, I thought you were talking about the...

Sorry man, I thought you were talking about the Mountaineer. But, I would never pay $800.00 for a LRH. I never liked that ML. mainly the stocks was the problem for me.
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 03:34 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

What you said above i agree 100% Now if that...

What you said above i agree 100%

Now if that rapid erosion happens at the range, and powder drops into the breech plug???? Just ask Henry Ball what could happen.

I should also explain this. The...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 03:26 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I have proven everything that i said. To be...

I have proven everything that i said.

To be honest, why even test something that you already no is not better? Maybe to save money, but in his case he's not when you factor time and materials. A...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 01:37 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

That's a good point. But why are the T/C'S so...

That's a good point. But why are the T/C'S so expensive? I could be wrong, but i though most parts were made right at T/C. Even the barrels????
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 01:34 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Sorry ronlaughlin, your wrong again. ...

Sorry ronlaughlin, your wrong again.

stainless steel can not be hardened. Therefore when compared with regular steel it is slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel fastener but...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I do know they are doing the DynaTek® bore...

I do know they are doing the DynaTek® bore coating. They are also mounting the recoil lugs. And i believe are also installing the recoil pads. When you have a barreled action not much really extra to...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 12:46 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

It's all pretty obvious. It is a common...

It's all pretty obvious.

It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to the low carbon content, stainless steel can not be hardened. Therefore...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 12:21 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I keep telling you, in comparison to the other...

I keep telling you, in comparison to the other materials your 18-8 Stainless is week/soft in comparison to grade 8. Even though Lehigh and PRbullets vent-liners are even better then grade 8 steel.
...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I didnt reply to your last comment so you would...

I didnt reply to your last comment so you would have the last word.

The information you supplied will show how week the metal is in comparison to the grade 8 steel that should be used. Like i...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 07:23 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

We all can make mistakes very easily. Even though...

We all can make mistakes very easily. Even though the mistakes we make are stupid.

You take a centerfire rifle for example. I myself do not know how i could ever double load one. I'm sure...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 03:35 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Maybe you will understand if i right small. ...

Maybe you will understand if i right small.

18-8 in comparison to what is available is soft and week. If you or any other person thinks thats safe enough have fun and enjoy. I would spend $3.00...
Forum: Black Powder
04-07-2011, 02:57 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

In normal circumstances yes. A double load or a...

In normal circumstances yes. A double load or a rod left in the barrel could exceed that very easily.
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 05:15 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

There are different kinds of stainless steel as...

There are different kinds of stainless steel as your son already knows. 18-8 is at the bottom.
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 05:09 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

They are not a reliable or safe way to make a...

They are not a reliable or safe way to make a vent-liner. You have nothing to protect it from heat or fire. And you cant even harden that material. The stock savage vent-liners are a much better way...
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 02:46 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I dont think Lehigh cares how many ventliners you...

I dont think Lehigh cares how many ventliners you sale or not. As far as shooting you down???? Well my friend, you just need to learn to listen before you speek.
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 02:41 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

ronlaughlin, Your mouth is as bad as the...

ronlaughlin,
Your mouth is as bad as the threads on MD'S breech plug you sent him. In case you forgot, the thread above that you wrote started this. And i now supplied the facts that anyone can...
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 11:18 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Grade 8 steel is not Stainless steel. It's a...

Grade 8 steel is not Stainless steel. It's a medium carbon steel.You are correct that grade 8 steel is good enough for breech plugs. A grade 8 steel is used for fasteners and bolts on a car wheel for...
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 05:03 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Sorry for the kid thing. Sent ya a PM.

Sorry for the kid thing. Sent ya a PM.
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 05:02 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

falcon, it's not just about hardness. Its gas...

falcon, it's not just about hardness. Its gas cutting and fire.
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 04:47 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I would think you are correct. The problem would...

I would think you are correct. The problem would be if it erroded and the powder went down into the breech plug. What are the chances of that????? I just dont like taking chances. I think Doc White...
Forum: Black Powder
04-06-2011, 04:42 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

ronlaughlin...

ronlaughlin (http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/members/ronlaughlin.html) ,

The stainless you are using is soft. You are the one selling products to members for money. Breech plugs vent-liners etc....
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 06:58 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Oh sorry, didn't think he was kidding around.

Oh sorry, didn't think he was kidding around.
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 06:54 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I actually have no clue what materials he used. I...

I actually have no clue what materials he used. I think they are very high quality but don't no for sure. Drilling out cheap cva plugs are not safe at all. Ecspecially when you go down into the...
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 05:11 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I would like to see every company do well to keep...

I would like to see every company do well to keep people employed. But if it doesn't it doesn't. I hope your wrong but you might be right. I really have nothing else to say about that.:confused0024:
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 05:04 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Not sure if you are a young kid or just don't pay...

Not sure if you are a young kid or just don't pay attention? I struggled with MD until i found out he was a young kid. I love the T/C Triumph. I actually said this twice in this thread already. Like...
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 03:17 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

You bring out very valid points. The Mountaineer...

You bring out very valid points. The Mountaineer is a upper end ML. Knight also sales cheaper ones. Or heck T/C and CVA also have cheaper lower end Muzzleloaders if thats what you want. You could...
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Very dangerous situation. Stainless cant even be...

Very dangerous situation. Stainless cant even be hardened to tell you the truth. Those breech plugs that are drilled out below the threads is another dangerous thing. Ecspecially in those cheap...
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 11:44 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Stainless is way to soft. Actually not even safe...

Stainless is way to soft. Actually not even safe to use. Do you no what kind of Stainless it is?

The Lehigh vent-liners are steel. They are hardened to Rockwell C60. They are also Gas Nitrided to...
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 07:32 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

He already owns a Lehigh conversion. That's why i...

He already owns a Lehigh conversion. That's why i think he's wanting/looking for something else????
Forum: Black Powder
04-05-2011, 04:34 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

I dont understand what you are asking. Are you...

I dont understand what you are asking. Are you asking how the Mountaineer is better then a LRH?
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 07:09 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

It doesn't all burn in a 50cal ML. The...

It doesn't all burn in a 50cal ML. The chronagraph will tell you that.
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 04:10 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

To tell you the truth, western powders never had...

To tell you the truth, western powders never had a Savage. I believe the people who made the product tested it with a Savage but not sure??? Maybe it was Toby Bridges????
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 04:07 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

They opened up the flame channel, and are using a...

They opened up the flame channel, and are using a .031 flash hole with a lot better material then the old so it will last longer. This stands true for the Mountaineer and the replacement plugs for...
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 04:00 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

You are right MD, but the new plug is even...

You are right MD, but the new plug is even better.:wink:
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 01:36 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Lol.....Negative is the american way. Good luck...

Lol.....Negative is the american way. Good luck with your Elite.
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Omega45...

Omega45 (http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/members/omega45.html) ,

I love the T/C Triumph Muzzleloader. I cannot think of one thing to say bad about it. I have owned Encores, Pro-Hunters, and used...
Forum: Black Powder
04-04-2011, 06:56 AM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Wink The post is not misleading at all. I dont...

The post is not misleading at all. I dont consider a ML BH209 compatible if you do certain steps to make it so. I want to take it right out of the box and do normal maintenance and have a reliable...
Forum: Black Powder
04-03-2011, 04:19 PM
Replies: 213
Views: 19,861
Posted By Grouse45

Knight Rifles does it first.

After talking with Lehigh a couple weeks ago, the new Mountaineer will be able to shoot all the BP subs on the market today right out of the box. http://www.knightrifles.com/mountaineer-guns/ And yes...
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