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Old 04-04-2011 | 08:21 PM
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MountainDevil54, You wrote, "complete and honest review", in a previous post, and then posted these pictures of breech plugs to further your inaccurate review, in your next post.










You somehow think these pictures of the plug, support your "complete and honest" review. However, what you did was provide an example of your failure to be honest. You see, you have shown pictures of two different breech plugs, and passed them off as if they are pictures of the same plug. This simply put, isn't, "complete and honest".

You also are trying to use the top picture to show that the plug pictured, won't thread into a barrel. That isn't honest. It threads right into a barrel with no problem whatsoever.

The pictures of the primer bushing unscrewed, is relevant how?
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Old 04-05-2011 | 01:09 AM
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Ron,
I have zero complaints about your Omega style Accura V1 plug. I have ignited a lot of shots with one in my Encore Bergara .50 barrel. All the grade 8 plugs you have crafted me screw right into the barrel without any issues. These last few have been works of art with the polished primer pockets and bolt head. Thanks again.
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Old 04-05-2011 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by builder459
The only thing one may need to do that they normally wouldn't with the T/C speed breech, is use a mag primer in extreme cold. other than that just regular cleaning of the BP, this is all that is necessary for proper ignition in all weather conditions.I will also say while vent liners and such are nice features, for the vast majority of people using M/L rifles there not necessary and i don't think you will see the various M/L companys rushing to ad this feature..............................
I think i agree with this statement. I cannot comment about mag primer, because i have never used one in my speed breech, but it makes sense to me. As far as ventliners go, i have them installed in some of my plugs, and i have other plugs without. The plugs i have without ventliners, are just as reliable igniting BH, as the plugs with. A ventliner isn't what makes a plug work with BH; it is the plug geometry that makes for success or failure.
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Old 04-05-2011 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HEAD0001
Grouse I have read through this post. But would you please take a minute and explain to me why this set up for a Knight LRH is so much better than what shipped with the rifle??
I dont understand what you are asking. Are you asking how the Mountaineer is better then a LRH?
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Old 04-05-2011 | 06:11 AM
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Ron,

I'm impressed by your work. If I didn't have an Omega i'd be using one of your modded plugs.
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Old 04-05-2011 | 06:14 AM
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What makes it better is the geometry of the new NFPJ plug. Lehigh got it right. The primer pocket is the right size, the channel is the right volume, the vent pocket size can also help with ignition and with the correct primers you get a slight crush fit. The fit and finish is also without equal. They are works of art for a machinist.

This all adds up to nearly zero blowby and almost no maintenance for many many shots without it hurting ballistics. No blowby also greatly reduced erosion, carbon in the flash channel and the hardened flash hole should last longer than any other on the market.

Plus primers nearly always extract with ease and just fall out of the adapter fired or un fired.

Im so sure they are the best option i have 5 now and everyone performs better than Knights older NFPJ plug in every way.

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Old 04-05-2011 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gm54-120
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What makes it better is the geometry of the new NFPJ plug. Lehigh got it right. The primer pocket is the right size, the channel is the right volume, the vent pocket size can also help with ignition and with the correct primers you get a slight crush fit. The fit and finish is also without equal. They are works of art for a machinist.

This all adds up to nearly zero blowby and almost no maintenance for many many shots without it hurting ballistics. No blowby also greatly reduced erosion, carbon in the flash channel and the hardened flash hole should last longer than any other on the market.

Plus primers nearly always extract with ease and just fall out of the adapter fired or un fired.

Im so sure they are the best option i have 5 now and everyone performs better than Knights older NFPJ plug in every way.
He already owns a Lehigh conversion. That's why i think he's wanting/looking for something else????
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Old 04-05-2011 | 08:25 AM
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OK, I kinda have lost track of "who said what"... but I do remember a comment I would like to speak to...

The 'vent liner' - need or no need??? Personally for me the vent liner has been a very acceted and appreciated little device, and yes there is no doubt in me mind the geometry of the Lehigh vent liner, which I had nothing to do with anyway i do not remember if i did, is the best desgin out there and not jst because of the hole in the end of it (flash hole). The inverted cone does a lot more for the operation of the breech than a lot are aware of. But, back to the 'vent liner' itself.

Along time ago and I remember back then.... we quite regularly erroded and gas cut the flash hole in normal breech plugs shooting the hotter loads with hotter primers. Then, in those days I would order another Omega BP and go again. Then one day Lee and I were discussing the problem online and I think I even remember the exact words... "heck! drill it tap it and installed a Lehigh Vent Liner"... some like $5.00 vs $20 - we both did that and from their I have no idea where it might end. At that time the Lehigh BP was not even on my radar screen I did not own a Knight.

But the thought of the Lehigh Vent Liner at the time was an easy fix as well as opening the flame channel to allow a less constricted port for the primer flash. The material (metal) the vent liner is built from would never be used by a commercial company, it was to expensive, the manufacturing process to build the vent liner would also not be used by a commercial company, again to expensive. And the hardening process that Dave demands on his liners would also not be used by a commercial gun maker, to expensive... The inverted cone design... I do not know how Dave came up with that jewel but it was a stroke of greatness for us. Heck! I still have some of his original design liners that he and Tom fashioned... they certainly work - but the material, design, engineering, and consrtuction of the current Lehigh liner far exceed anything else on the market, and I will be darned if it is not less expensive (really should have never said that last line) I have installed Lehigh vent liners in all of my TC guns, even the Omega plug with 25ACP ignition, and if I were still shooting the Remington 700 more I would do the same thing to it.

So yes... not all vent liners are created or function the same!!!
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Old 04-05-2011 | 08:33 AM
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The Knight Mountaineer is a very nice rifle. Given today's anemic economy i seriously doubt many of them will be sold at Knight's asking price.
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Old 04-05-2011 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by falcon
The Knight Mountaineer is a very nice rifle. Given today's anemic economy i seriously doubt many of them will be sold at Knight's asking price.
I said that same thing.... then the other day someone told me how many they have already pre-sold - amazing and the gun is not even out yet!!!!!

Also, I not sure sure Knight getting back into the market has set real lofty sales figures for this first go around.
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