Knight Rifles does it first.
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Nontypical Buck
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So just supply the information that you did with 18-8 for regular grade 8 steel. Then you will see for yourself how poor 18-8 is compared to grade 8 which other liners are made from.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but i did spend a night in a Holiday Inn Express

And while I was there I read this web site piece on metals:
http://www.k-tbolt.com/material_grade.html

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Nontypical Buck
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I do use grade 8 steel to make breech plugs from, and i agree it is good and strong. Actually i would rather drill grade 8 steel, than the 18-8 stainless, but i haven't been able to find 10-32 flat head socket screws in grade 8. I am kinda forced to use the stainless screws by what's available. Drilling the flash hole in a grade 8 screw would be so much easier, than it is in the stainless.
What i posted about Yield strength and tensile strength shows that the 18-8 screws are at least 3 times stronger than they need to be, and perhaps even more. Even if grade 8 would be stronger the 18-8 is a way plenty strong enough, and it may be better than grade 8 in resisting erosion of the flash hole.
What i posted about Yield strength and tensile strength shows that the 18-8 screws are at least 3 times stronger than they need to be, and perhaps even more. Even if grade 8 would be stronger the 18-8 is a way plenty strong enough, and it may be better than grade 8 in resisting erosion of the flash hole.
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Hey,
I don't have a dog in this fight, but i did spend a night in a Holiday Inn Express
And while I was there I read this web site piece on metals:
http://www.k-tbolt.com/material_grade.html


I don't have a dog in this fight, but i did spend a night in a Holiday Inn Express

And while I was there I read this web site piece on metals:
http://www.k-tbolt.com/material_grade.html


It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to the low carbon content, stainless steel can not be hardened. Therefore when compared with regular steel it is slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel fastener but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners.
All the information i have said is 100% correct period. People can choose and use whatever they want now.
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It's all pretty obvious.
It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to the low carbon content, stainless steel can not be hardened. Therefore when compared with regular steel it is slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel fastener but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners...................
It is a common misconception that stainless steel is stronger than regular steel. In fact, due to the low carbon content, stainless steel can not be hardened. Therefore when compared with regular steel it is slightly stronger than an un-hardened (grade 2) steel fastener but significantly weaker than hardened steel fasteners...................
#168
Back to the Mountaineer rifle. No doubt it's a good rifle. However, it appears that Knight does not make much of that gun. The barrel is made by Green Mountain, the breechplug and bolt by LeHigh and the ramrod by Easton.
What part of the gun does Knight actually manufacture?
What part of the gun does Knight actually manufacture?
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Back to the Mountaineer rifle. No doubt it's a good rifle. However, it appears that Knight does not make much of that gun. The barrel is made by Green Mountain, the breechplug and bolt by LeHigh and the ramrod by Easton.
What part of the gun does Knight actually manufacture?
What part of the gun does Knight actually manufacture?
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I've gotten a lot of chuckles from this thread and have been waiting for someone to state the obvious. But no one has, so here goes.
There's a big difference between a breech plug and a vent liner. Strength and hardness are way more important in the breech plug because the threads take the full force of the pressure spike and it's possible (though unlikely) for the threads to fail allowing the plug to blow back against the breech. It's just not the same with a vent liner where the head of the liner is resting against the face of the plug. There's just no way pressure could strip the threads of a vent liner. The worst thing that could happen with even the softest vent liner is rapid erosion of the flash hole.
There's a big difference between a breech plug and a vent liner. Strength and hardness are way more important in the breech plug because the threads take the full force of the pressure spike and it's possible (though unlikely) for the threads to fail allowing the plug to blow back against the breech. It's just not the same with a vent liner where the head of the liner is resting against the face of the plug. There's just no way pressure could strip the threads of a vent liner. The worst thing that could happen with even the softest vent liner is rapid erosion of the flash hole.
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