please tell me just one negative to crossbows
#471
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Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow.
Nobody is answering that, because they themselves use compounds and they'd be effectively be arguing themselves out of their own chosen weapons !
Nobody is answering that, because they themselves use compounds and they'd be effectively be arguing themselves out of their own chosen weapons !
But not according to you huh? EVERYONE who chooses a compound does so because it's sooooooo easy compared to traditional. Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
#472
Glad you asked. The way I understand it WI has the longest bow season in the U.S. running from sept 15th(<sat closest) to jan 3rd with 9 days of that time going to gun hunters. I see no reason we cant find room in their for a crossbow season. I also think to be fair for all , the seasons should rotate to give all weapon choices a chance during the rut except gun season. There is a reason the DNR has gun season when it does. If gun season were during prime rut it could have devastating results on the deer herd.
Here in Illinois the gun season is and always has been during the first two ruts of the year. They don't always hit it right on the mark but it is always close enough to be considered "peek rut" Here the does go into estrus about the second week in november (right before thanksgiving) and again on about the second week of December. Thats also when the slug gun season is.
#473
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Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
#474
Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow. Far easier to use, longer range, could be held at full draw far longer than traditional bows. They had sights, a trigger release, were more compact than a long bow and you could hunt from more concealed places and so on.
Do you think that was a correct decision?
Do you think that was a correct decision?
Bowfanatic
Can you answer this question for me as a compound shooter and not a trad. shooter.
I would like to see how some people rationalize this.
It was ok back then to bring in something new and VERY different AND include it in the SAME season, but now it's completely out of the question...unless it has it's own season
It was ok back then to bring in something new and VERY different AND include it in the SAME season, but now it's completely out of the question...unless it has it's own season
And what are your feelings about the above statement as well.
#475
Anyone that is trys to say the crossbow and the compound are in line to make some money on the deal,or they would not be pushing it so hard.
I wish they would go back to the stick bow. There is allready to much put on how fast your bow is and how far you can shoot.It will only get worse if crossbows are in there to.
Good luck I hope you can make your money some outhere way than to push the crossbow.
I wish they would go back to the stick bow. There is allready to much put on how fast your bow is and how far you can shoot.It will only get worse if crossbows are in there to.
Good luck I hope you can make your money some outhere way than to push the crossbow.
#476
Good luck I hope you can make your money some outhere way than to push the crossbow.
Just because I feel there is nothing wrong with crossbows allowed in the archery season dosen't mean I stand to make money on them.
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flat feet - you've never hunted with a recurve or you'd understand how much more difficult it is to draw on a deer with one of them as opposed to using a compound. Not unlike the difference between a crossbow and compound really. BTW - my blaze orange never spooked deer.
Compound hunter numbers and succes vs trad of course. Compounders and crossbowers would kill more in 1/4 of the season than trad guys would in 3/4 of the season.
I got a better bet than that. I'll take YOUR compound having never shot it and spank a crossbow shooter. 
A gaurantee ? No - but what we can assess is that a crossbow in general archery season has never resulted in anything negative before. That trend will, in a ll likely hood, continue too.
Arkansas has Oct 1st - Feb 15th - and we allow crossbows !!!!!!!!
Ohj geeeeeeeez, quit enough with the scaring little kids tactics. What you fear has NEVER come to pass before, why sould your state be THAT much different ? And honestly, compounds alread do the very thing you fear anyway if you'd just admit it !
Like I said, you want YOUR easy, you want YOU choice, you want YOUR technology and YOUR charge .......... but dammit if you'll let anyone else have theirs.
And that is what gripes me most about anti-crossbow people. Its do as I say, not as I do mentality. And thats also why I throw in the banning of compounds because secretly, a little part of me would LOVE to see the whining if that ever happened.
uh ........... 100% wrong
Why 1/8 to compounds and 1/8 to crossbows? How about we split it up equally?
I'll still take that bet!! Make sure the Chevy has a full tank of gas!

No you cant!! Period! Not you or anyone else can guarantee the same results in every state!!!!!!!!!
The way I understand it WI has the longest bow season in the U.S. running from sept 15th
It doesn't effect me or my hunt today but it could tomorrow. If there are seperate seasons and they introduce crossbow to a state that has never allowed them it can show them first hand if there will be problems. If they start out with a one month crossbow season and by the second year the crossbow season is producing twice the numbers of regular archery season then they have the problem pin pointed. By just throwing it in the general season theres no way of knowing who shot what with what weapon besides maybe a question box on a tag and relying on the honesty of everyone isn't good science.
Ahh yes I do! Depends how you look at it. Some people called it evolution of the bow. Some people actually shoot compounds because they love technology and they get a charge out of it.
But not according to you huh? EVERYONE who chooses a compound does so because it's sooooooo easy compared to traditional. Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
But not according to you huh? EVERYONE who chooses a compound does so because it's sooooooo easy compared to traditional. Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
Like I said, you want YOUR easy, you want YOU choice, you want YOUR technology and YOUR charge .......... but dammit if you'll let anyone else have theirs.
And that is what gripes me most about anti-crossbow people. Its do as I say, not as I do mentality. And thats also why I throw in the banning of compounds because secretly, a little part of me would LOVE to see the whining if that ever happened.
Anyone that is trys to say the crossbow and the compound are in line to make some money on the deal,or they would not be pushing it so hard.
#478
Original question:
Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow.
Nobody is answering that, because they themselves use compounds and they'd be effectively be arguing themselves out of their own chosen weapons !
Answer:
Ahh yes I do! Depends how you look at it. Some people called it evolution of the bow. Some people actually shoot compounds because they love technology and they get a charge out of it.
But not according to you huh? EVERYONE who chooses a compound does so because it's sooooooo easy compared to traditional. Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
Responce to answer:
I have yet to hear a responce to that question that dosen't come across sounding like that exactly. If they did, then they would not be able to reply to this statement. Which BTW no one has yet.
Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow.
Nobody is answering that, because they themselves use compounds and they'd be effectively be arguing themselves out of their own chosen weapons !
Answer:
Ahh yes I do! Depends how you look at it. Some people called it evolution of the bow. Some people actually shoot compounds because they love technology and they get a charge out of it.
But not according to you huh? EVERYONE who chooses a compound does so because it's sooooooo easy compared to traditional. Being one who started out trad and still dabbles in trad I can honestly say your arrogant attitude gives trad hunters a black eye!
Like I said, you want YOUR easy, you want YOU choice, you want YOUR technology and YOUR charge .......... but dammit if you'll let anyone else have theirs.
It was ok back then to bring in something new and VERY different AND include it in the SAME season, but now it's completely out of the question...unless it has it's own season
#480
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Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow. Far easier to use, longer range, could be held at full draw far longer than traditional bows. They had sights, a trigger release, were more compact than a long bow and you could hunt from more concealed places and so on.
Do you think that was a correct decision?
Do you think that was a correct decision?
To answer the question, "Do you think that was the correct decision?" I'd have to say yes. The reason I say yes is regardless of all the technical advancements to the compound bow allowing them to be easier to shoot, more forgiving, and greater range due to improved energy transmission .. they are shot with the same skills and techniques that traditional shooters use. You must grip the bow in a relaxed grasp, draw that arrow back over the rest to a consistent anchor point, focus on your target or sites, both sighting methods work for all bows ... and then relax the fingers or release the arrow from the release and hold your form till arrow impacts target. The major differences are in the arrow's energy, and muscle strength necessary to hold full draw.
I would like to see how some people rationalize this.
It was ok back then to bring in something new and VERY different AND include it in the SAME season, but now it's completely out of the question...unless it has it's own season
It was ok back then to bring in something new and VERY different AND include it in the SAME season, but now it's completely out of the question...unless it has it's own season
Which leads us to today. Do we expand the definition of archery to include crossbows? I don't want to, but what do I know. What that instantly opens the door for is components for compounds that will hold the bow at full draw, and even more radical products that shatter that first simple definition or archery which 47 states still use. A bow which has a minimum draw weight that must be manually drawn and held. It's why compounds were allowed .. and it is why I feel crossbows should be considered seperate.
That is just MY opinion.


