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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:09 AM
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WHY is it that the m50 is not legal to hunt with? It is just a gun.

To me there is not much difrance with the crossbow. I can shoot 2 times as far with my cross bow as my bow.

There is people out there that can shoot farther with a 308 than a 50 cal. BUT for the genaral publie the 50 cal is way better.

The croossbow should be saved for the handycaped people in the bow seasion.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:14 AM
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Datamax, just b/c a few old men smoke 3 packs a day, eat eggs and bacon every morning and live to be 100 doesn't mean it's a good idea for everyone else to follow. I think just assuming that since AR, OH, and GA have not had any ill effects does not automatically assume each state will follow suit. You must consider terrain, deer herd, hunter numbers, season lengths, bag limits, etc.
By the same token DC you can't ignore the data. Sure you have to factor it in but it's the only data we have and how many states have to legalize them before the data becomes relevant. Certainly, no one can predict the future but we certainly have to use experience and similar circumstances as factors. I would think Georgia in particular would be a good comparison to Mississippi.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:19 AM
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To me there is not much difrance with the crossbow. I can shoot 2 times as far with my cross bow as my bow.
You must truely have the most amazing crossbow to ever grace the surface of this planet. What I can't understand is what makes your crossbow so much different from all of the hundreds of other crossbows that I have seen and shot[8D][:-]
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:24 AM
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Speed efects the heads you have to use macaniacls to get good goups witha croosbow. But I am sure you know this.

We where not hooting boadheads at this time.I do not know what the range is for them.I do know there is some very good shooters out there. BUT the avrage bow shooter can not out shoot a crossbow shooter.

Here is some reasion why that are passed up.

Try to lay down with your bow and shoot.

You can use things to strurdy your self with a crossbow. {JUST LIKE A RIFLE} TRy to put your bow aginst something to sturdy it and see what happens.

TRY TO SHOOT YOUR BOW OUT THE WINDOW. This one is bad the crossbow is one of the main pouching tools now :{ AND NO I DO NOT SHOT OUT THE WINDOW! This is a reasion why it should not be aloud.Ride in the back of the truckwile its -30 good luck on the drawing the bow.But I am sure you could PULL THE TRIGER ON THE CROSSBOW.It would not make more pouchers Just make it eazyer[no sound]


I am sure that STEADY READY will make them some money.I dout if it will be used in hunting with any real advantage.

As many have said it will just put more money in the pockets of the croosbow makers.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:25 AM
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It dose not take much KE to kill a deer.Just about any crossbow at 85 yards has that much.
KE isn't the question - the distance is the question. And hey .......... compounds can do the same thing, right ?

I am an avrage bow shooter. Put a crossbow in my hands I could shoot a 3 in goup at 60 yards eazy.SCOPE is a big difrantce and puting it aginst your sholder to sturdy it.
I'm an average recurve shooter. Give me a compound and I can make 50 yard shots. Big difference. See ?

My wife can bearly shoot 55# bow but she can dang shure shoot my crossbow at 60 yards and hit a 3 in target.
Good for her ! She likly couldn't hit squat with a recurve at 15 yards.

Try to lay down with your bow and shoot
check - yes, i can do that

You can use things to strurdy your self with a crossbow. {JUST LIKE A RIFLE} TRy to put your bow aginst something to sturdy it and see what happens.
You can steady yourself with a compound too. And you can shoot a crossbow off handed. Whats the point again ?

TRY TO SHOOT YOUR BOW OUT THE WINDOW.
Why ? Its illegal to hunt out of the window, why would I want to practice ? But ..... hmmmmmm, yes, I could probably shoot out of the window of a vehicle with my 45# limbs. Sounds tough .... I might have to try that some day though I still don't se the practicality behind it.

As I said they may be made the same but in NO way are they the same to hunt with.
You mean of course a compound and how they are compared to a recurve - right ?

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I think just assuming that since AR, OH, and GA have not had any ill effects does not automatically assume each state will follow suit. You must consider terrain, deer herd, hunter numbers, season lengths, bag limits, etc.
ahhhhhhhh, this is true. However, you have to accept what has transpired in those states and use that information to make an informative decisions. To say "we'll lose season" or "bag limits will be reduced " - its simply not true, its never happened. Most anti-crossbow people never acknowledge those vital pieces of statistical data - and they should. G&F Commissions do for sure.

So to me it just looks like you are trying to make the croosbow people more MONEY.
Then its reasonable to say that you and the others are trying to make the compound people more money ? Bowtech, Mathews, AR, Bear/Pearson/Jenning .......... you don't think they throw money to FIGHT crossbows ? Of course they do - its in their best intrests to do so
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:26 AM
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I think all would happen is people that LOVE to hunt would buy crossbows.
It's funny you said that, I posted a while back about "true" hunters and nobody responded to it. My way of thinking is simple, if you love to hunt you will hunt with anything that is legal to hunt with so I agree with you.

I hunt or have hunted almost everything you can here in the lower 48 with many different types of weapons. This is why I see no problem with crossbows. I think too many people here think the world of hunting revolves around hunting with a bow and never even think to broaden their horizons.....it makes for narrow thinking.

So to me it just looks like you are trying to make the croosbow people more MONEY
While I agree crossbow "people" would make more money, but that is not what i'm after here. I am just trying to say it's ok to allow a new type (although it's not new, it's been around for centuries) of bow to be used during the archery season.

Do you think it was right, years ago to let compound bows into the archery season? After all they were vastly different than the long or recurve bow. Far easier to use, longer range, could be held at full draw far longer than traditional bows. They had sights, a trigger release, were more compact than a long bow and you could hunt from more concealed places and so on.

Do you think that was a correct decision?
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:27 AM
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Here is an ill effect to crossbows, but someone will have something to complain about again.

Here in Georgia I hunt on public land ,the Military base, and some leases has stated that since there are crossbows in the woods that everyone in the woods hunting Deer, and hog during bowseason must wear 500 square inches of orange for safety reasons. If you don't believe me go to the home page of Warner Robins AFB and follow the links to hunting through outdoor recreation Dept. Ever two years we have to go through a hunters safety coarse and every time, they state that the reason we wear orange is because the crossbows are in the woods know. How can some people here state that they don't effect anything? Oh, by the way we never had to wear orange during bowseason before the crossbows.

I know you will say that deer can't see orange. They can see movement aginst a solid light color real easy. It is easier for a crossbow hunter to get away with movement, rather than a bowhunter.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:31 AM
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NO I do not have the best crossbow. The farthest animal I have shot with a bow is 22 yards. I have killed deer over 50 yards with my crossbow.

You keep trying to point out things that are said and puting them out of prespective.

They may be made the same way BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME TO HUNT WITH. and every persion out there knows this. If they exept this fine as stated I will hunt with mine.

Heck if they made it leagle to hunt with a speer I WOULD ALLSO BUY A SPEERAND HUNT.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:34 AM
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Hey I have a con for crossbows. They would take money away from the big money compound manufacturers that pour money into the organizations that fight crossbows so ardently.
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Old 03-29-2005 | 11:39 AM
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Can you give some statistics on how many less deer are killed because of hunters wearing orange? Other than a little inconveinence I sincerely doubt that it has any effect on the number of deer killed throughout the state. I have not seen any difference when wearing orange while bowhunting, which I do throughout the gun season here in Arkansas. I have been doing it for years and never seen a difference whther I was wearing orange or not. So since all we have is anecdotal evidence, unless you can show me some studies that may change my mind, we'll just have to agree to disagree on whether or not hunter oragne is actually a negative. in fact the opposite could be argued since there have been postings here about people being shot with compounds during the archery season, wearing hunter orange could be viewed as a positive since it increases hunter safety. But are we talking a state wide policy here or just on the base? If so could it be the person in charge of safety there just felt this would be an added precaution against liability. Many such institutions do go above and beyond when it comes to safety or could it be the person in charge of safety and or the training officer have a grudge against crossbows?
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