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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:51 PM
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Lets rethink the whole thing is it Wrong to do this sort of thing?
Is is wrong to trespass?
Is it wrong to kill something or take something that is not yours?
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As far as your questions go I would say trespassing is wrong and killing something that is not yours is wrong too. Luckily I don't do either so am I in with the "in" crowd now? I have another question. Is it wrong to completely ignore the laws of punctuation and grammar?Just something I've been wondering about.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:08 PM
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Actually friendI used the terms in bounds and good doggers several times and never set you into the rougue catagory. The beauty of this is I really dont have to take any time or effort to support your cause or tradition. Volitile irritated and hard to chat with, is of no matter to me cause its not my hounds that are on the chopping block. Far as the GA regs not having anything to do with you, maybe not in terms of VA rules today, but its is a system that is working in another state and sets a nice guideline of potential solutions. Not suprisingly you continue to dismiss it. Furthermore the troubles and the originator of this thread is in SC where the issue is hot. So if it dont apply and you are not interested, how bout go chase your dogs.Your opinion is as valuable to the topic as the GA regs are to you.

Pecking on a mans typos and spelling blunders is a real champion way to do business there buddy. Chop off another foot of respect on your quickly dwindling self.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:24 PM
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Actually friendI used the terms in bounds and good doggers several times and never set you into the rougue catagory. The beauty of this is I really dont have to take any time or effort to support your cause or tradition. Volitile irritated and hard to chat with, is of no matter to me cause its not my hounds that are on the chopping block. Far as the GA regs not having anything to do with you, maybe not in terms of VA rules today, but its is a system that is working in another state and sets a nice guideline of potential solutions. Not suprisingly you continue to dismiss it. Furthermore the troubles and the originator of this thread is in SC where the issue is hot. So if it dont apply and you are not interested, how bout go chase your dogs.Your opinion is as valuable to the topic as the GA regs are to you.

Pecking on a mans typos and spelling blunders is a real champion way to do business there buddy. Chop off another foot of respect on your quickly dwindling self.
Ah respect, something your posts have been full of from the start, right? Wrong, for every time you said "good dogger" or in bounds youfollowed it up withthe morecolorful depictions of what you think of dog hunters.
IfI were concerned with earning your respect I would probably be deeply saddened right now but as it stands I am not. GA regs don't have anything to do with me the subject was dog hunting. Like I stated earlier I have never been to GA or SCbut from what you describe thecircumstances are far worse than we have in VA. My opinion is valuable on this topic, to me. Fortunately that is all that matters in this particular setting. As far as thetypos, if you ask stupid questions be prepared for stupid answers(or were you talking about yourcomments I quoted?)
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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:42 PM
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I'm sure we could go on and on but realistically we will never meet a middle ground on this topic. We seem to have nowhere to go but down from here. I am only mad at myself because I lost an hour and a half of sleep responding. I guess we just have to disagree. Im sure you were in the middle of reponding so I will read it and just bite my tongue if I want to respond.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:43 PM
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While you refuse to police your own and confront your ill behaved brothers, the rest of us are having confrontation after confrontation and yes sometimes it gets real ugly. I have seen men beaten, dogs shot, peoples land burned and many more incidents all revolving around the simple fact that you doggers cant keep your hounds in check.

Over a freaking deer? you have got to be kidding me.. If any of this is done because a dog trespasses you should really really look at yourself in the mirror and find out what the real problem is! That is absolutely disgusting that any of that would happen because a dog crossed a fence line! All I know is I thank God the people that hunt in the province I do actually have respect for other people and theyre property,, I would give up huntingcompletely if people acted this way in the areas I hunt!
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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:57 PM
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No man what is a joke is you fire off namecalling and accusations of all sorts then cry foul when someone slams you back. Furthermore when the thought of actually looking at what is going on around here and some of the compromises that have been laid out and are working to everyones behalf you want none of it. Typical dogger. You place yourself there not me. I could be a typical still hunter ans say I dont care and I hope doggin is banned. NoI take some time out to try and meet in the middle.Keep jacking your jaw, and see how much longer that lasts fool.

You sit here and say the thread is about dog hunting. No friend its about SC dog hunting something you know nothing about. So carry your bones to bed and go out in the am and enjoy your hunt. While your out there keep track of your dogs and know that in states not far from you many are not and we are fixing to do something about it.
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Old 12-30-2006 | 12:09 AM
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No it isnt over deer. What it is over is repeated tresspassing and purposefully entering another mans land and stealing the privacy that comes with owning land. Then when you have the nerve to stop them and say something the red neck in them comes out and you are threatened. They burn your land, burn your cabin, and throughout the entire process continue to dump their dogs into your property. Its a matter of respecting your neighbor and a mans land. It has little to nothing to do with the deer.

If you will read in the Georgia regs you will see very specific regualtion concerning threats ect. Do you suppose they took the time to write this in there for a reason? Sure they did because the fact is that this is the typical response you will get if you try and lock em up, confront them, or otherwise stand up for your right to own private property and enjoy it. without their hounds.

You may think I am kidding, but sit back on your porch one day and have a guy show up with a loaded gun on the seat of his truck that "informs" you that he is going to drive into your land to retrieve his dogs a few hours before you go out and still hunt. When you say no dont think so , the reply back is,"ya know thats how a fellas land gets burned" These arent stories these are actual happeneings and if you think I am the only one who can pass on accountings like this, just look in the newpapers around here.

No human being has right to terrorize his neighbors over hunting a deer with his dogs. These numbskulls apparently feel it is their God given right to run all over anything they please at all cost. Well enough is enough and down here were doing something about it. If our buddy here is to stupid to see that taking a look at the problem and possibly getting proactive about queelling the abuses in his area that i am absolutely sure happen, than so be it. What he fails to understand is its the lack of regulation that let these guys get away with it. he doesnt have to do it , for it to need regulation, theres plenty out there willing to do it even if hes a "good dog hunter".Watch his tradition disapear becuase he wont sign onto proper regulation that gives the rest of us some sanity and expectation of being able to enjoy our land without his sports rougues tresspassing hounds on it.

I for one know its a heck of alot more than 63% of the public that doesnt hunt and I also know that when youtally the small minority of the hunting public that dog hunts you dont stand a snowballs chance in hell of saving your sport without my support. Better yet if you piss me off andIO rise up against you with my vast majority of non doggin hunters that are all pretty much pissed as well, it gets real ugly.

So there I am one day looking at my bent up gate and a truck running into my property tearing tires and tearing up my roads. Call the sherrif sure with what? nearest phone is ten miles away and this sob is on my land trying to cut off his dogs with a loaded gun on the seat of the truck. Well fella at some point and time someones getting theirbutt kicked for being disrespectful like that.
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Old 12-30-2006 | 03:31 AM
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No man what is a joke is you fire off namecalling and accusations of all sorts then cry foul when someone slams you back. Furthermore when the thought of actually looking at what is going on around here and some of the compromises that have been laid out and are working to everyones behalf you want none of it. Typical dogger. You place yourself there not me. I could be a typical still hunter ans say I dont care and I hope doggin is banned. NoI take some time out to try and meet in the middle.Keep jacking your jaw, and see how much longer that lasts fool.

You sit here and say the thread is about dog hunting. No friend its about SC dog hunting something you know nothing about. So carry your bones to bed and go out in the am and enjoy your hunt. While your out there keep track of your dogs and know that in states not far from you many are not and we are fixing to do something about it.
Actually I will comment as there was no abusive name calling or accusations of any sort, just you babbling on and on like you continue to do with little sign that you have evenread the majority of my posts as you just keep saying the same thing over and over(it is actually hard to hearwhat you are sayingoverthe loudchest beating). The thread title is about dog hunting, not SC dog hunting so get it straight there professor. I will enjoy my hunt and I will make sure I catch the dogs before they get to SC as I hear there are some real bad rednecks down there that don't take kindly to us dog hunting. I will continue jacking my jaw is there isn't a da*n thing you can do about it. As far as doing something about dog hunting, like I said we are here and we are dog hunting do whatever you feel you need to, I personally am not feeling threatened by your "We're coming to get you" rants. Please feel free to come as there is only one state between us, that state being NC of course you should stop there and "take care" of them boys and their dog huntingtoo.

I've said it before and I'll say it now:

RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!
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Old 12-30-2006 | 07:06 AM
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Why so we can hear the game warden say well fellas ya know a dog cant read a tresspassing sign and while I see some tire tracks here I sure dont see any hunters around.
So there I am one day looking at my bent up gate and a truck running into my property tearing tires and tearing up my roads. Call the sherrif sure with what?
While you refuse to police your own and confront your ill behaved brothers, the rest of us are having confrontation after confrontation and yes sometimes it gets real ugly. I have seen men beaten, dogs shot, peoples land burned and many more incidents all revolving around the simple fact that you doggers cant keep your hounds in check.

Sounds to me like you should be more worried about reforming your law enforcement then anything.What good are new regulations going to do when they dont enforce the existing ones?If your reporting people that are breaking the law and thier doing nothing about it then you have worse problems then people running dogs on your property.Be kinda like reporting a burglary and having the cop say he can see the doors been kicked in and your stuffs been gone through but since theres nobody in the house they cant do anything
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Old 12-30-2006 | 07:25 AM
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Yep enforcement is a problem hence the preregistration of dogs to owners and liscensing of the hunters. Liscenses that not only go in the hunters pockets but on every vehicle involved as well as on every dog. That is addressed in the Georgia regs.Furthermore your running lands are submitted for approval and mapped out. Plain and simple when your hounds get out of bounds there is plain and simple recourse with not alot of need for investigation. You will be held accountable for your hound just as I would be if I am over the line. Boy now thats alot to ask there.

Hey New the thread is about SC dog hunting posted byt a man definately in SC. The problems he expressed are happening at this very moment all around the state.

Enjoy your free time up there, as I said winds of change are coming. Deny it , scream about it, cast your hounds with no regard, but theres no doubt that people wont stand for being abused over a mans need to hear his hounds forever. I am truely sorry to say, your responses are so very typical even when presented by someone with far more patience and temper than myself. What you still fail to understand is your fellow hunters, are your only hope or preserving your tradition. So while you say tough luck, and your an anti, please try to understand you are only tightening the noose by being volitile with your hunting brothers concerns.

It is truely a shame that it has come down to this kind of anger, and frustration in our state. And for those of you that didnt understand, its not the public and the still hunters making the threats burning the land beating people down (for the most part LOL) its bands of tresspassing trash that know how to scare a man into not calling the Sherriff.We shouldnt be battling back and forth for our rights. But, when you fathom that this is truely a typical stance of a dog man and that the rougues are well underneath what you have seen here, you will begin to get the idea that some hunters you just can not support.
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