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Old 12-29-2006 | 09:46 PM
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dog hunters aren't giving up they're sport and thats basicly what your demanding, so get your movement going and hurry up about it so ya learn a very valuable lesson.
You guys are typical and a very good indicator as to why you are probably very much correct in saying that the eventual end is people will seek the abolishment of deer doggin.You wont get together and be proactive about addressing the issuee that are being leveled in your court. You would rather throw out excuses and cry of folks picking on your way of life rather than realize you are sharing this ground like it or not.Furthermore your running all over ground that aint yours.

A fella comes on here and says flat out I am all for helping and supporting reforms for your kind of hunting to help insure its future while at the same time minimizing the negative impact. In return yousay things like ,you just want to see the end of doggin, you must be a transplant, you love the country but want to regulate the country out of existence. Give me a break, and at the very least do me the favor of coming up with something worth replying to.LikeI saida very typical reply by adogger.

Have you ever read the new Georgia regulations? Here they are read up and tell me where it says we will abolish dog hunting. Progressive self policing of your sport through regulation is what you fellas need to insure its survival. No one is suggesting you stop and face off with the rougues of your sport, we are tending to that while y'all are racing your hounds. Not just us but the general public. Yep i have slapped down more than one of your kind and will do it again, cause brother I am big bad azz red neck myself, I just have some respect for other peoples property rights unlike many ofthedoggers out there today.

I left the whole Georgia regulations part out as that was just filler anyway. The more important part of your post is the one above.
Your attitude and lumping together withweare typical and stop whining and things like that. You are argumentitive at best and condescending at worst. YOU DON'T LIKE DOG HUNTING, WE GET IT!!Don't blow smoke up my a$$ telling me you are here to help with reform. Every post you refer to us all as doggers not hunters and to you all doggers are the same because evenif we are not"bad doggers" we are not doing anything to stop the bad doggers so we are just as bad. Blah blah blah blah, you are starting to sound like Charlie Browns teacher.

Then you follow it up with this pearl of a comment:

"No one is suggesting you stop and face off with the rougues of your sport, we are tending to that while y'all are racing your hounds. Not just us but the general public. Yep i have slapped down more than one of your kind and will do it again, cause brother I am big bad azz red neck myself,...."

Are you kidding?
One of who's kind?
Are you a big bad azz red neck? And if so what the in the h*ll does that have to do with anything?

Even when you make a good point you follow it up with a bunch of condescending, argumentitive remarks. I know I already said that.

I don't know aboutGeorgiaor SC as I have never been there but in VA it is not "headline news" and the fact is we have been hearing the same thing you keep saying for years. Until the VDGIF says it needs to be regulated it will continue to be the"statusquo",which is goodand bad.

As muchas I would love to keep this up I must go because I am goinghunting in the morning. Yesthe dogs are going to be there tooand they will probably bemore excited than me.

I'll check back tomorrow and see if this thread is completely in the crapper, it's pretty close right now.


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Old 12-29-2006 | 09:46 PM
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I'm sure there is some effect on the baby fawns, but that doesn't seem to be a problem, either.
Better rethink that one. I can start laying study after study where up to 80% of the fawn crop is eaten by coyotes.They are very much a factor in fawn mortality and recruitment as well as bobcats and bears.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 09:50 PM
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I edited that other postto remove undue name calling, sorry.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:06 PM
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Well to sum it up; here it is most people don't like your dogs.
Those of you that do like hunting with your deer dogs.
Questions
How about me and a couple of my buddies just run out in front of you on your land and shoot your deer that your dogs are running.
How Would yoy feel?
Do yoy want me to go to Jail or pay heavy fines for that?
How about a trespassing fee paid to you for my inconsiderate actions?

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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:09 PM
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Lets rethink the whole thing is it Wrong to do this sort of thing?
Is is wrong to trespass?
Is it wrong to kill something or take something that is not yours?
answers please
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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:10 PM
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It's not hear no evil see no evil, but I don't get paid to take the risk of confronting the unsavory amongst us
That is what the redneck comment was geared at my friend. While you refuse to police your own and confront your ill behaved brothers, the rest of us are having confrontation after confrontation and yes sometimes it gets real ugly. I have seen men beaten, dogs shot, peoples land burned and many more incidents all revolving around the simple fact that you doggers cant keep your hounds in check.

Now if you think doing your part is by calling in is good enough than thats the hand youre playing in the ever growing debate. Thats your chocie to participate and leave cleaning up the abuses to the rest of the world. But understand you fellas that do it with ethic and respect ar allowing by your own failure to get proactive about curbing the rougues of your sport are in effect saying you all decide what to do with them. After all I am too busy enjoying my chase over here.

Anyone heard from number 89 lately? Yeah bo he just busted out the south end of the property onto the neighbors. Well the rest of the pack is headed over this way on a good buck, well catch up with him later.

BTW i will admit the longer I deal with this problem, the more I fit exactly into your impression thatI hate dog hunting. What turbo charges that build up of loss of respect and care, is taking the time to try and help a man preserve his tradition only to be called everyname in the book for providing an alternative. Fact is you my friend just painted yourself as even more typical than before. Your true love of the sport is all about getting a hound to run up game that you otherwise would never expend the effort to get. You do it at the expense of the sanctity of your neighbors lands and expect we should bow down to your traditions or face harsh criticisms.

Well pal, a man unwilling to compromise in the face of certain trouble is a man sure to loose eventually. You and your overly defensive midset will allow the end of your tradition to loom larger than your mouth. its like a steamroller friend, once its starts rolling your going to have a heck of a time stopping it. Be better to pull the keys before it starts. Enjoy your hunt tomorrow and by all means please do tell us about your efforts to curb your dogs before they race onto another mans property. I'd love to hear your reasoning as to why its ok for you and your hounds to run all over land you have no right to hunt when I cant run all over yours.

BTW tell the truth, you leave out the GA regs and any talk of them cause truely you want no change. You are perfectly happy being able to run rampant all over the countryside. its your greatest wish we'd just all leave you alone. Sorry can't do that, your far to offensive with your recreation.

To be continued..........

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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:12 PM
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Well to sum it up; here it is most people don't like your dogs.
Those of you that do like hunting with your deer dogs.
Questions
How about me and a couple of my buddies just run out in front of you on your land and shoot your deer that your dogs are running.
How Would yoy feel?
Do yoy want me to go to Jail or pay heavy fines for that?
How about a trespassing fee paid to you for my inconsiderate actions?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....Most people? What is that 10 on this thread, I guess the way most of "yal" anti dog hunters do math that is "most people". I would say that if someone is running on your land and shooting your deer you should call the law.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:25 PM
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Why so we can hear the game warden say well fellas ya know a dog cant read a tresspassing sign and while I see some tire tracks here I sure dont see any hunters around. Get real and get ready cause the winds of change are fixing to blow your house down.

I really wish one of you doggers would come up with something original like, You know i feel your guys pain and i am sorry my tradition is stepping all over your toes. lets sit down at the table and start discussing what we can do to give everyone a fair shake at enjoying their chose form of outdoor activity. That aint going to happen throw that out or any semblance of a plan and they call it filler. LMAO
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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:43 PM
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It's not hear no evil see no evil, but I don't get paid to take the risk of confronting the unsavory amongst us
That is what the redneck comment was geared at my friend. While you refuse to police your own and confront your ill behaved brothers, the rest of us are having confrontation after confrontation and yes sometimes it gets real ugly. I have seen men beaten, dogs shot, peoples land burned and many more incidents all revolving around the simple fact that you doggers cant keep your hounds in check.

Now if you think doing your part is by calling in is good enough than thats the hand youre playing in the ever growing debate. Thats your chocie to participate and leave cleaning up the abuses to the rest of the world. But understand you fellas that do it with ethic and respect ar allowing by your own failure to get proactive about curbing the rougues of your sport are in effect saying you all decide what to do with them. After all I am too busy enjoying my chase over here.

Anyone heard from number 89 lately? Yeah bo he just busted out the south end of the property onto the neighbors. Well the rest of the pack is headed over this way on a good buck, well catch up with him later.

BTW i will admit the longer I deal with this problem, the more I fit exactly into your impression thatI hate dog hunting. What turbo charges that build up of loss of respect and care, is taking the time to try and help a man preserve his tradition only to be called everyname in the book for providing an alternative. Fact is you my friend just painted yourself as even more typical than before. Your true love of the sport is all about getting a hound to run up game that you otherwise would never expend the effort to get. You do it at the expense of the sanctity of your neighbors lands and expect we should bow down to your traditions or face harsh criticisms.

Well pal, a man unwilling to compromise in the face of certain trouble is a man sure to loose eventually. You and your overly defensive midset will allow the end of your tradition to loom larger than your mouth. its like a steamroller friend, once its starts rolling your going to have a heck of a time stopping it. Be better to pull the keys before it starts. Enjoy your hunt tomorrow and by all means please do tell us about your efforts to curb your dogs before they race onto another mans property. I'd love to hear your reasoning as to why its ok for you and your hounds to run all over land you have no right to hunt when I cant run all over yours.

BTW tell the truth, you leave out the GA regs and any talk of them cause truely you want no change. You are perfectly happy being able to run rampant all over the countryside. its your greatest wish we'd just all leave you alone. Sorry can't do that, your far to offensive with your recreation.

To be continued..........
I was going to go to bed but I knew you would spit outanother novel so I waited. Did you ever consider that maybe the manner you are offering your alternative is offensive to me. As you continuallypaint a pictureof me as some trespassing, mindless, hooligan whorambles all over the countryside disrespecting others land. I will surely "loose" with my "midset" being so defensive. I left out the GA regs as I don't live in GA therefore they do not apply to me. They are still however in your post for all to enjoy. I can only say this, I am defensive towards someone like you who would have everyone believe there are not people that hunt with dogs and obey laws and respect property. When you repeatadly try to make me out as a dogger who falls into the same category as ones you have been exposed to. Iwas joking about the name calling but some good onesdo come to mind now. I ama hunter as I stated earlier, not just a dog hunter. Ihave killed several deer this season still hunting just to disspell more of your rambling nonsensein regards to "needing a hound to run up game I otherwise would never expend the energy to get."
You spout off long winded ramblings,"full of sound and fury signifying nothing" comes to mind. Everything you say is based on your particular exposure to dog hunting in your area and when you lump me in with the bad experiences you have hadI can and will take offense to that as I was not there and despite what you think I am not responsible for the actions of other grown men.

I was going to enjoy my hunt tomorrow but I think you convinced me. I am going to quit dog hunting andwrite a book called "Long Winded Babbling andOther Incoherent Thoughts"

For future reference though you are right,I don't want or need your "help". But thank you so much for offering.
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Old 12-29-2006 | 10:46 PM
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Why so we can hear the game warden say well fellas ya know a dog cant read a tresspassing sign and while I see some tire tracks here I sure dont see any hunters around. Get real and get ready cause the winds of change are fixing to blow your house down.

I really wish one of you doggers would come up with something original like, You know i feel your guys pain and i am sorry my tradition is stepping all over your toes. lets sit down at the table and start discussing what we can do to give everyone a fair shake at enjoying their chose form of outdoor activity. That aint going to happen throw that out or any semblance of a plan and they call it filler. LMAO
You can't see the forest for the trees my friend. Reread all the posts and tell me what dog hunter would want to sit down with you and "discuss" anything. I have stated agreement on some things mentioned and you still wanted to bash, so now we are here.
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