Another thing I tell all the people I talk to is to remember that we are trying to do the opposite of nature.
In the real worl the hen usually comes to the tom not the other way around like we are trying.

Thanks for help guys, all sounds like good advice, that will be used this spring.

no problem thats what we are here for. any questions please do ask.

U betcha - there are many here who have learned well from past set-ups that just didn't work out like planned.

JW