This chart looks pretty good to me. IF you take each calibers killing power at its optimum range. If you use the comparison of the 44 Mag and the 25-06, If you have ever shot a critter with a 44 Mag rifle within its effective range, You could not doubt its efffectivness. It just knocks them flat. It has awsum power at close range. I believe at the start of the tables he states that these results are based on the proper bullet and range. Even with a 5 inch revolver at 50 yards it takes game down fast.

Take both calibers and move the critter out to 200-250 yards and things change in a hurry. Same with the 243 and 30-30 anyone who has shot many critters within a 100 yards can't doubt the ability of the 170 grain 30-30 at that range. As the range increases you loose velocity which is ONE LEG of the killing formula.

Virgina 7. This is an excellent table and SHOULD help explain why things work as they do. ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PAINT A FULL PICTURE OF KILLING POWER. The 243 used within its effective range both in yards and in critter size, has its place. I just don't go to that place much. Good luck to those who do.

If I had to take long shots (and I don't) then I would honestly be looking at 7mm and up with decent velocity and good coeffecient. I'm just on a roll today. Most deer I see are at pistol range, the wife won't eat it so I leave it alone. Usually.

You live in la-la land.
Your another one that picks and chooses which charts to use. You show ballistics when there in your favor. But when I do they mean nothing.
If I post ballistics on the .243 compared to the .44 you'll come back with myths about TKO# such as this chart.
The .44 aint got nothing on a 25 or a .24, at 1 yd or 300yds

I never once said your figures meant squat. And I never said what I posted was law. I was merely pointing out another bullet option on the market. You may not like it, but it is what it is. Pick a better bullet for the 243? Why, because it looks better on paper for you? And you want 200-300 yard performances huh? Ok here you go.


.......................BC.....................Velo city300yards.......................Energy300yards
243,95gr
AccuTip...........355............................. 2347......................................1162

243,100
PSP.................356........................... ..2215......................................1089

7-08,140
AccuTip............486............................ 2314.......................................1664

7-08,140
PSP..................390.......................... ..2189.......................................1490


But, I am sure this will not suffice. The data does not prove your point. So you will reject it based upon bullet selection. I am sorry if you do not like it, but these are factory loaded rounds, intended for deer hunting.

I am done with this cluster. Good luck to you.

BTW- you never answered my questons. What is your point? What are you trying to prove?

The .243 AI and the 6MM-06 are also good high performance .243's. The .243 AI will provide about 200 fps more speed than the regular .243. . . . .240 Weatherby offers about 300 more . . . . 6MM-284 and 6MM-06 are close to 400 more. I find the 6MM-284, with its shorter fatter case, to be a little more accurate and slightly more effecient in terms of pressure/velocity than the 6MM-06. But they are very close.

One of my customers summed it all up about fifteen years ago. He got his 6MM-284 with a 26" Hart barrel delivered and sighted in a couple days before a Wyoming mule deer hunt. On the way back to Colorado, he called me from his cell phone. "What a vicious little gun . . . " was his opening comment.

That the .243 is just as good or better than most guns.


Heres how this debate goes with you naysers.

I say it's a good gun, you say nah too little not enough penetration. I post SD and BC numbers you say that doent mean nothing.
I say the .243 better than a 30-30 it has more energy you say that doesnt mean nothing.
I say it's as good as a 7-08 you say 7-08 gots more energy. That means something.
Energy means nothing when I compare it to a turdy turdy but energy is everything when I compare it to a 7-08. Well which is it. then when ballistics are about the same you say oh the bullet isnt big enough around. WTF ?????????????????

Lets get the record straight right here and now. I have NEVER said anything about penetration. I have NEVER said anything concerning the 30-30. And I have NEVER said anything about it being to small. All I was showing, is the 243 in not the top of the cream bucket. It is a fine round. It will kill deer. But it certainly is not the absolute best choice out their. That is all nothing more.

And you are the one that says caliber does not matter. You said nothing is gained from a 7mm over a 6mm. I was simply pointing out that the 7-08 has better BC, and has more energy. Just refuting your statement. I even stated, if I could use a rifle for deer in this state, it would be a 243. Because I could use it for a dual purpose. Good luck to you sir, I am done with this.

Very well.
It wasnt directed directly at you. It was to the naysayers. thats how my debate has gone with them. I guess I should have placed they instead of you in that post, being that I quoted you last.

zrexpilot,

Did you read the article that CZ2506 posted??? If not heres the link again http://www.xmission.com/~fractil/math/kp.html#test It will go along way into explaining how bullet weight and diameter affect terminal performance. I am no opponent of the .243 (have killed several nice size whitetail with one) but to suggest the .243 as an elk cartridge is ridiculous...