How far did these deer go with no lungs or heart?

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Is it just me or am i missing something here?

When you factor in this I get confused.

OK, RTA and Charlie, I am also confused on your points. But here is another point made that I get confused on.

You are promoting taking a quartering to against a quartering away shot??????? []

Please help BowFanantic, there are a lot of confused archers around.

Now that you mention that's kinda weird to.

I would agree that knowing the parameters of your setup would be key in choosing what mechanical (or any head for that matter) you were going to use.

Angles can be tricky. I can still be occasionally fooled on the severity of an animal's angle after many years experience. Additionally, unexpected things can happen under field conditions.

For example shooting 70 pounds of kinetic energy coming out of a well tuned bow, should be more than enough to put a two blade broad head completely through any deer standing broadside, if no bone is hit, right? Well, I thought so too, until I failed to get a complete passthrough on a rutting buck one time, although he still went down within eyesight.

I have seen the same set up put a two inch cut three blade mechanical completely through a number of nice bucks.In fact as I recall, the only time I didn't get a complete passthrough with the three blade two inch cut, the buck ran off with most of the arrow sticking out of his side. I had a sickening feeling when it happened because from my perch thirty yards away it appeared like there was minimal penetration into the rib cage as the buck ran out of sight. When I finally got down and checked the bloodtrail a blind man could have followed it. The arrow penetrated perhaps 12 inches or so and was still stickng out of the deer when I found him about 100 yards later. Upon dressing out the buck it showed the shot only took out one lung. You could have knocked me over with a feather.

I guess what I am trying to say is, even when conditions are perceived as ideal, there still can be some surprises. In answer to your question, I would never use any head that I wasn't 100 percent sure would do the job on a quartering away animal.

I hope - and set up for the quartering away shot. I've taken deer with both mechanincals and fixed this way - and had both go all the way through and not go through - same with shotgun.

On my bow buck from last fall - the Snyper mechanical hit the opposite leg and stayed inside, The buck went 50 yds and piled up. - The was not alot of blood to track - but even with no blood - The deer would have been a no brainer to find.

Boy you fellas get testy after seasons end! No venison in the freezer or what? J/K Lighten up! I'll do my best to shed light on any questions or "missing somethings".



I didn't measure at the time but I'd guess it probably wasn't over 100 yards. It just seems alot further when your on your hands and knees searching for a drop of blood. I hunt strictly hardwoods surrounded by willow thickets and canary grass if that helps shed some light on the picture.

Not if you understand basic anatomy. Heart pumps blood + entrance and exit wounds = lots of blood. No heart pumping blood + plugged entrance wound and no exit wound = no tracking blood.
You do know that a whitetail deer can haul arse and cover alot of ground very quickly with a hole through it's heart correct?

Hope I ended your confusion above.

That should have read "I'll stick with broadside whenever possible and will take a slightly quartering towards"

Am I promoting anything? Absolutely not! It's a shot I've made so many times I cant count , with excellent success. The key word was "slightly! On a slightly quartering towards shot you can put the arrow thru both lungs and not worry about the opposite leg.
On a quartering away shot the rule of thumb is to aim for the opposite leg.
I will add this though. I have a buddy who shoots a pretty fast setup with aluminums who has blown thru that opposite leg with outstanding results. With my setups (carbons and moderate speed) I cant get the same results so I do what works for me.

Hope I cleared the air!