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Old 12-30-2003 | 08:19 AM
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Never with a bow, but two instances of having to finish the job with alternate means gun hunting back when I was younger. Once I shot a small buck on a deer drive. He was running at about 40 yard, shot was with 12ga OO buck. He dropped like a stone at the shot and was perfectly still until I was point blank - when I noticed his eyes were closed. A follow up shot from 5 feet with OO buck wasn't my first choice.

The other instance was a doe I shot with my dad's 30-06 from about 70 yards. The doe was standing at the edge of a stream and the shot broke her spine. She fell into the stream after the shot into almost waist deep water (banks are undercut). A follow-up shot into the water wasn't an option as only her head was above the surface and she was drifting slightly in the current. I ended her struggle without a knife and will use my pistol if presented with a similar situation in the future.
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Old 12-30-2003 | 10:39 AM
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But I am alarmed at how many deer are not finished off with one arrow. I am nowhere near the perfect archer, however, I have never had a deer run more than 20 yards after the shot. And they all have died within 10-15 minutes max. Having said that, I also am the guy who puts alot of time and energy into this sport and practices year round. So when the season comes, I put myself in a position to make a perfect shot 9 times out of 10. IMO, the only reason these deer are not killed quicker is for bad shot placement.
This is just funny!!! Swamp Dawg must have only shot one deer in his lifetime. If you've never had one run past twenty yards you have either only shot one or two or have amazing luck. I am sure the first is more correct. The deer I spoke of earler was shot with a .50 cal muzzle loader from 20yds through the lungs and it only went twenty yards, however, it still had a lot of life left.

My 8pt bow kill this year was through the lung and died over five hours later. Maybe our Buffalo County deer are a little tougher than the average (LOL).
I practice with my bow several times a week year round and am a professional marksman so it certainly isn't a problem with practice.

In fact I've probably shot over 100 whitetail with rifle, muzzleloader, and bow and very few lung shot have gone only twenty yds. Usually when you have a good hit they make the death run and cover a lot of ground fast.

The lung hit usually is a quick clean kill, but certainly isn't always instantaneous. You will learn this after you hit a few more deer.
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Old 12-30-2003 | 02:48 PM
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I saw it done once. That was enough to tell me it was a bad idea.
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Old 12-30-2003 | 03:00 PM
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i had to finish one off with another arrow once, i didn't like a thing about it.
i am not the type to slice the throat, I'll shoot another arrow, hopefully the first shot will be plenty
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Old 12-30-2003 | 03:25 PM
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This is just funny!!! Swamp Dawg must have only shot one deer in his lifetime. If you've never had one run past twenty yards you have either only shot one or two or have amazing luck. I am sure the first is more correct. The deer I spoke of earler was shot with a .50 cal muzzle loader from 20yds through the lungs and it only went twenty yards, however, it still had a lot of life left.

My 8pt bow kill this year was through the lung and died over five hours later. Maybe our Buffalo County deer are a little tougher than the average (LOL).
I practice with my bow several times a week year round and am a professional marksman so it certainly isn't a problem with practice.

In fact I've probably shot over 100 whitetail with rifle, muzzleloader, and bow and very few lung shot have gone only twenty yds. Usually when you have a good hit they make the death run and cover a lot of ground fast.

The lung hit usually is a quick clean kill, but certainly isn't always instantaneous. You will learn this after you hit a few more deer.
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Cybersniper,
Say what you want, but I have a hard time believing you actually had a double lung shot and the deer lived as long as you say. Your shot placement wasn't obviously where you say it was. Maybe you are right. Maybe I am just lucky. I have only shot 9 deer in my life, but I make darn sure that my shot placement is perfect. To me, its not quantity, its quality. I have passed on dozens of deer that probably most people would shoot at, because making a clean harvest is my utmost responsibility as a hunter. And as far as shooting over 100 deer, man, you sound like Wilt Chamberlain bragging about how many women he has slept with! LOL. So you are telling me you have at least shot 4 deer a year for the last 25 years on average? Man, you are really awesome. I might have been born at night, but not last night. LOL.
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Old 12-30-2003 | 04:29 PM
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And as far as shooting over 100 deer, man, you sound like Wilt Chamberlain bragging about how many women he has slept with! LOL. So you are telling me you have at least shot 4 deer a year for the last 25 years on average? Man, you are really awesome. I might have been born at night, but not last night. LOL.
You need to read a little deeper. In my original post I mentioned being in law enforcement and slitting the throat on a car hit deer. From October to late November we average over one car deer hit a night. Those deer are then shot with a handgun or squad shotgun to finish them off. Shooting one a night is very common here in WI. Especiall in the suburbs were hunting is limited and deer are plentiful.

I have also participated as a sniper in the CWD eradication zone shooting numerous deer in that capacity

And finally I bow, gun and Muzzleload on a property where I can hunt in my backyard every day the seasons are open. I have been hunting for over 25 years.

Now that you mention it I would say I have taken close to 200 deer.

Just a couple more than 9. I also think there isn't a guy in this forum that believes you have shot 9 deer and not one has ever gone past 20 yards.

Hell, I watch the outdoor channel almost everyday and even the pros aren't doing that.

I see the makings of your own sharpshooter tv show.

All joking aside, I do respect the fact that you wait until the perfect shot. My point is that even with a perfect shot there are times when deer don't die immediately even though they are not going anywhere and death is inevitiable. The guys heare just don't want to see the animal suffer anymore than it has too.
You will have it happen to you also when you have a few more under your belt no matter how good you shoot. You also can't predict what the deer is going to do ie.. turn when you release, jump the string etc..
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Old 12-30-2003 | 07:22 PM
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Swamp Doggie... my hunting partner has shot 18 with the bow this year alone. Almost ALL have gone at least 50 yards. I've shot around 25 in the last 3 years, and all have gone more than 20 yards except for the 2 spine shot jobs. Most were dead in seconds, but they travelled more than 20 yards. I've shot around 80 with the bow and I can't think of any.... except spine shots that went down in 20 yards. Every once in a while a hit is less than perfect. So we're talking about the exceptions here. I've had a couple that required additional killing out of 80. Don't tell me it can't happen or I'm a bad hunter because it did. Stuff happens....... and then you slit their throat.
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Old 12-30-2003 | 09:54 PM
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Cybersniper,
I just went back and read your post. You said nothing about killing all those deer while you were on duty. You were referring to deer you had taken with a gun, bow, and muzzleloader. And now that someone has called you on it, your story has changed. So which is it? 100 or 200 deer? In a few more posts, maybe we can get it up to 3-400 and we can all compare you to Fred Bear.
I'm not saying a perfectly hit deer would only run 20 yards. I agree that 20 -100 yards is more the norm. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about how far a deer should run if hit perfectly. And I realize there are going to be situations where deer don't die instantly. I was just saying I was alarmed at all the deer that are not harvested in a quicker manner. I guess I have been exceptionally lucky then. I have no reason to lie. If I was lying, I would tell you that I've shot 1-200 deer in my lifetime. I truly have never had a deer run more than 20 yards on a bow or rifle kill.

Hey Davidmil, What is your season limit on deer in Maryland? What do you do with that much venison?
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Old 12-30-2003 | 10:06 PM
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Sometimes a guy has to do what he's got to do in certain situation's I've had to do it and see other's do it as well .I didn't like it or even like seeing it but I also don't like to see an animal suffer ,so sometime's it is necesary.

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Old 12-30-2003 | 11:44 PM
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We're allowed all the does you care to shoot in the zone I live in. The season runs from Sept 14-Jan 31. So, I guess there's no bag limit. We give most of them away and donate a lot to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. Maryland has a shortage of hunters but more a shortage of land access.
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