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Old 12-15-2015, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
I think the only way to solve this is to find a TC with an off center QLA, and see if an accurate load can be worked up.
I would say find two or three. But they gotta be able to shoot 1" groups with a sabot at 100 yards first. Remember, the claim is shoot sabots excellent but Bore size bullets awfull because of the QLA.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
If I wasn't confident in what im saying, or know any facts I wouldn't make the comments. And if I thought my answers and results could be all over the place like playing Russian Roulette. I would avoid the answer and not supply any information until I new the facts.
One big giant FAIL is all I can say to your response.
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flounder33
One big giant FAIL is all I can say to your response.
That's the difference between you and me. But ok
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flounder33
I know quite a few others whose opinions I respect have figured it was the qla that prevented many tcs from shooting conicals accurately. Others I respect like Lee have said they have not encountered that problem.
I never cut the qla off my tc guns to see if that would solve the problem but here is a thread by Ron that convinced me it was the off centered qla that caused the inaccuracy.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...t-casting.html
I know of others on another forum that have cut the end of the barrel off with the same result. From these results, second hand as they may be, I have deduced that an off center qla is what caused the problems. A qla that is not centered on the bore but is machined to be centered on the outside of the barrel.
I know doc white says that sabots will make up for barrels that are not completely up to his standards, making barrels that are not quite perfect still shoot well.
It is entirely possible that a barrel could have a bore that is centered and thus a qla that is centered and then it might shoot conicals with acceptable accuracy. Maybe TC has changed their manufacturing process in their new guns, I have no way of knowing, I only know about the rifles that I and others have owned. It is my opinion that with other barrel manufacturers you would have a sure thing at shooting conicals and with tc it is like playing Russian Roulette, a game I will not play.
txhunter58 is another quality member that will also verify the TC QLA problem and I dont think many of us on here would call him a liar like grouse is basically doing on this subject.
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:48 PM
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Well I was going to say it, grouse some of the stuff you say sure makes you sound arrogant

That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
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Old 12-15-2015, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sbuff
Well I was going to say it, grouse some of the stuff you say sure makes you sound arrogant

That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
I've owned a bunch of them. Don't have money to waste on nothing. I know what they will do, don't need to prove anything to myself. But I'll happily stick to what I said, and if that's arrogance I'm ok with it. Everyone makes mistakes, nobodies perfect. I will gladly pay for mine if I'm wrong.
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Old 12-15-2015, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
txhunter58 is another quality member that will also verify the TC QLA problem and I dont think many of us on here would call him a liar like grouse is basically doing on this subject.
Have him get a hold of me with his T/C that shoots Moa with sabots, but shoots bore size bullets terrible. I'll gladly make it worth his while. And not sure why someone who can't achieve something would be called a liar.

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Old 12-15-2015, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Underclocked
I'll repeat it... I think the Accura MR in SS/black is probably the best rifle on the market for the money. I would now go beyond that and state that I would prefer it to anything TC or Knight has to offer.
You posted this once already. I never new you to be like this, but I don't really see you post much anymore. Glad you shoot what makes you happy. That's all I do as well.
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Old 12-15-2015, 04:02 PM
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txhunter's problem has been solved. He cut his QLA off. And you can see the reason and the need!

If you look at the pictures you will see why. I happens in the method that TC choose to cut their bores. The QLA hides the off-center bore.
His was not off that far but if you look closely you will be able to see it.




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Old 12-15-2015, 04:09 PM
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That aint the finished work I would hope?
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