The truth about muzzleloading!!!
12-15-2015, 12:54 PM
#101
Nontypical Buck
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I would say find two or three. But they gotta be able to shoot 1" groups with a sabot at 100 yards first. Remember, the claim is shoot sabots excellent but Bore size bullets awfull because of the QLA.
12-15-2015, 01:08 PM
#102
Nontypical Buck
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One big giant FAIL is all I can say to your response.
12-15-2015, 02:21 PM
#104
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I know quite a few others whose opinions I respect have figured it was the qla that prevented many tcs from shooting conicals accurately. Others I respect like Lee have said they have not encountered that problem.
I never cut the qla off my tc guns to see if that would solve the problem but here is a thread by Ron that convinced me it was the off centered qla that caused the inaccuracy.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...t-casting.html
I know of others on another forum that have cut the end of the barrel off with the same result. From these results, second hand as they may be, I have deduced that an off center qla is what caused the problems. A qla that is not centered on the bore but is machined to be centered on the outside of the barrel.
I know doc white says that sabots will make up for barrels that are not completely up to his standards, making barrels that are not quite perfect still shoot well.
It is entirely possible that a barrel could have a bore that is centered and thus a qla that is centered and then it might shoot conicals with acceptable accuracy. Maybe TC has changed their manufacturing process in their new guns, I have no way of knowing, I only know about the rifles that I and others have owned. It is my opinion that with other barrel manufacturers you would have a sure thing at shooting conicals and with tc it is like playing Russian Roulette, a game I will not play.
I never cut the qla off my tc guns to see if that would solve the problem but here is a thread by Ron that convinced me it was the off centered qla that caused the inaccuracy.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...t-casting.html
I know of others on another forum that have cut the end of the barrel off with the same result. From these results, second hand as they may be, I have deduced that an off center qla is what caused the problems. A qla that is not centered on the bore but is machined to be centered on the outside of the barrel.
I know doc white says that sabots will make up for barrels that are not completely up to his standards, making barrels that are not quite perfect still shoot well.
It is entirely possible that a barrel could have a bore that is centered and thus a qla that is centered and then it might shoot conicals with acceptable accuracy. Maybe TC has changed their manufacturing process in their new guns, I have no way of knowing, I only know about the rifles that I and others have owned. It is my opinion that with other barrel manufacturers you would have a sure thing at shooting conicals and with tc it is like playing Russian Roulette, a game I will not play.
12-15-2015, 02:48 PM
#105
Fork Horn
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Well I was going to say it, grouse some of the stuff you say sure makes you sound arrogant
That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
12-15-2015, 03:00 PM
#106
Nontypical Buck
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Well I was going to say it, grouse some of the stuff you say sure makes you sound arrogant
That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
That said, maybe I am lucky but my tc X7 shoots conical s such as fpb,bull shops and no excuses very accurate .. Seems you got enough money to buy one,why not just do it rather then call out UC and flounder.
12-15-2015, 03:32 PM
#107
Nontypical Buck
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Have him get a hold of me with his T/C that shoots Moa with sabots, but shoots bore size bullets terrible. I'll gladly make it worth his while. And not sure why someone who can't achieve something would be called a liar.
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12-15-2015, 03:50 PM
#108
Nontypical Buck
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You posted this once already. I never new you to be like this, but I don't really see you post much anymore. Glad you shoot what makes you happy. That's all I do as well.
12-15-2015, 04:02 PM
#109
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txhunter's problem has been solved. He cut his QLA off. And you can see the reason and the need!
If you look at the pictures you will see why. I happens in the method that TC choose to cut their bores. The QLA hides the off-center bore.
His was not off that far but if you look closely you will be able to see it.
If you look at the pictures you will see why. I happens in the method that TC choose to cut their bores. The QLA hides the off-center bore.
His was not off that far but if you look closely you will be able to see it.
