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Old 07-06-2004 | 09:31 AM
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Deerslayer,

You sir are the slob. Not the "slob" bucks/doe you say your harvesting. To intentionally shoot a deer in the hind quarters is completely unethical. I don't care if it's a record class buck or a yearling. That's just completely unresponsible. A shot at a running deer at 260 yards?? [:@] [:@] Once again, I don't care if you have 20+ years of marksman military training to backup that sort of shot. That's unresponsible!!!!

If had a record class buck that would only give me an ass shot, im going to take that shot where you think its ethical or not. "oh gee, this world record class buck walked by but i didnt have a shot at his lungs or heart so i let him keep strolling down the path to go frolick happily with his friends." And dont say you wouldnt take that shot either. I aim for the heart and/or lungs everytime i shoot a deer. But if thats a slob buck and i dont have a front quarters shot, im taking out his rear vitals. A deer can't move with a busted up pelvis and blood spewing all over internally.
So your tellin me and everyone else on this board that you don't have the patience that it takes for the buck to move 1-2 feet out from behind a tree to give you a GOOD shot? Please keep this junk off the board.
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Old 07-06-2004 | 11:46 AM
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Deerslayer,

A few years ago, I shot at a deer and hit it in the early season. I found a good blood trail and followed it until it dried up. During the late ML season, I had a deer walk up towards me limping and I figure I would take it out. It was the same deer. I was shooting down from a tree stand, on an angle, and the first bullet went right through the leg, just missing the body.

I was glad I finally got the deer. Is this something that could have happened to you, sure, or it was just a flesh wound. You could have hit the deer low, scarped the breast bone without breaking it, or hit a leg and she got away. Deer can run very fast on three legs.

Hopefully, she healed up and maybe you will see her again. It's a small world.

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Old 07-06-2004 | 12:20 PM
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Don't give me that BS of what the deer deserves. Why should i have to shoot it in the heart or lungs? Yeah, the deer is going to eventually die. But a lung shot deer could run a few hundred yards. I hit my 140" 9 point in the hind quarters, not on purpose, but it dropped him on the spot. a 220 pound field dressed deer dropped on the spot. Had i hit him in the lungs, he probably could have went 200 yards up the creek in terrible tracking conditions. I hit my 6 pointer this year in the front of the hind quartesr on a 260 yard running shot. It hit several main arteries and broke the front of the pelvis, dropping the deer on the spot and killing him almost instantly. Why should this not be considered a good shot? just because it ruins some meat. I can shoot does if i need meat that bad. I'm gonna make claims to justify or validate because i think that it is a very quick death for the deer. If had a record class buck that would only give me an ass shot, im going to take that shot where you think its ethical or not. "oh gee, this world record class buck walked by but i didnt have a shot at his lungs or heart so i let him keep strolling down the path to go frolick happily with his friends." And dont say you wouldnt take that shot either. I aim for the heart and/or lungs everytime i shoot a deer. But if thats a slob buck and i dont have a front quarters shot, im taking out his rear vitals. A deer can't move with a busted up pelvis and blood spewing all over internally.

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Old 07-06-2004 | 01:30 PM
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I agree with Tomster......It may have been a breastbone shot.......I had not thought of that until he stated that. It com plies with everything you said.....The blood was dark red, and is was kind of shovel-nosing. If your sternum was shot I think you would be bending overa little also.

Ok, and for Deerslayer....I understand where you are coming from......but put yourself in the deer's hoofs. You wouoldn't want to be shot to the leg, and die slowly. Also, didnt you ever think about shooting all your deer in the spine. I mean that would make them fall straight down, and you wouldnt have to use any worthless energy to track your deer. I mean...the spine runs the entire length of the deer so you would always have some type of shot?? WOULDN'T YOU!!?? Get some class........and give the deer in your area a break!!
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Old 07-07-2004 | 08:07 PM
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I've seen this before .I'd say you hit it low in the briscuit,they'll bleed hard for a while then they stop all together . I agree with you Jimbo definetly no stupid shot's either a heart lung or neck ,but I'm not wasting an ounce of meat whether it's a trophy or not ,I don't have a trophy and wouldn,t take it this way .I'm afraid I'd have to let it walk .Call it B-ll sh-= if you want but this is how I hunt ethically or not at all.

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Old 07-07-2004 | 09:39 PM
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It's pretty obvious that this person has no respect for the game that he hunts!!![:'(] Prob dew to the fact that he has been spoiled with good hunting property and never really earned any of the deer that he has TAKEN!!!!![]

He prob has a bunch of friends that also have good property to hunt on and they are all in compition with each other to see who can kill the most and the biggest deer which has prob driven him to poaching

How about it there ds223 does that kinda sound right

Oh buy the way does the 223 stand for you poaching rig???
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Old 07-08-2004 | 12:08 AM
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Umm i think we need 2 get a few things straight her LONGBEARD. I'm not the one that shoots dear in the hindquarters and takes bad shots that is deerslayer 37. So before anyone goes and accuses me of being a bad hunter they better read their facts a lil better. And i do NOT poach never have never will. Ohh and by the way the 1 deer i did wound that this post is about i searched for on 2 different days a total combined time of about 7hrs so dont gimme ne crap about being a bad hunter!!!
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Old 07-08-2004 | 07:17 AM
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Deerslayer223,

You did what you could to find the deer, that is exactly what you should do. You did take a long shot 180 yards using a lighter calibur rifle. I only shoot my 30-06 out to 100 yards since that is what I shoot at the range. After that, how much the bullet drops I don't know so I don't shoot it at higher yards at the range.
Also, in PA where I hunt, I don't usually have shots over 100 yards.

If I could make a suggestion, if I were going to use this rifle for deer, I would keep my shots closer to me like 50 to 100 yards, just a suggestion. After that, I would limit my shots. I'm not that familar with that calibur but I thought that was mainly for varmits like coyotes. I don't know.

I do have a friend that uses a 270 for deer and it shoots great.

Do what you must but keep in mind what your limitations are and this is a lesson learned.

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Old 07-08-2004 | 02:22 PM
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Agreed, you hit it low in the chest, missed the heart and did the deer no real lasting damage.

Oddly, sadly, I did the exact same thing last year on a buck. I'm not real happy telling the story, but... I misjudged the range on an extremely cold (-10 degrees) day. The shot looked good, and the buck donkey-kicked before darting into heavy brush. I was celebrating as I approached the spot. I began tracking him and had good amounts of blood to follow in good tracking snow. Two hundred yards later I began to realize something was amiss, 'cause he was still going. Shortly thereafter, he cleared a barb wire fence on a bound that carried him 25-30 feet. I trailed him for 800 yards, with the blood eventually petering out to a single spot or two every 100 feet. I spotted him another 500 yards ahead, and he wasn't showing any signs in his walking motion of being hit. In fact he was chasing a doe around. He did stop occasionally to lick at his side, way low down. It was too open to get close enough for another shot (300 yards is my max), but I just walked up to them to make him run and check out his run for any signs of serious injury. He ran off with ease, clearly not hurt badly.

The rifle I used was a 270, the shot turned out to be 250 yards, and I bought a range finder this winter to try never to do that again.
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Old 07-08-2004 | 07:38 PM
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wow can of worms i opened up on that one...First off, TAZ- Have lost one deer in my life. I put the arrow right behind his shoulder and watched him take off. waited a half hour, crawled down, got help, and began the search. skipped outta school the next to look also. never found him. Other than that, i have never shot any deer that i have not recovered. why is the shot not ethical? It drops the deer immediately. it kills it quickly. and my comments are being blown out of proportion. the way some of you sound, its almost like you think i shoot for the back legs on every single deer. I've shot 2 deer in the hindquarters, neither of them on purpose. but by watching their reactions and a couple other times where i've seen deer shot in the hind quarters i've come to the conclusion that it is the best shot when it comes to killing a deer when you have the proper weapon. I would only take the shot if that deer was a big antlered buck that i had been working my ass off for, and i had a 12 gauge shotgun slug or high powered rifle that packs a punch. i wouldnt take the shot with a bow. ethical because it wastes meat? I have an entire freezer full of meat, and in the CWD zones they wont let you donate meat. what am i supposed to do...well, gee, i can't shoot him because i have enough meat. i dont get one of those warm fuzzy feelings deep down because i let a deer walk even though i could easily and humanely kill him. If i work my tail off, put my blood sweat and tears into it, freeze my toes and nose, and pay my $300 tag, i want to get that buck. My first shot is aimed for the lungs, but if i can knock him down and kill him with 1 shot, im taking that shot.

Mr.Longbeard, if you think i poach so much why dont you come on out and watch me hunt my land that spoils me. I follow the hunting regulations to a tee. The law doesnt say where my bullet has to hit that deer. My code of ethics says that if i put my all into a hunt and am given a shot that i normally do not take but would humanely kill a deer, im gonna take it. some people think neck shots are unethical. alot of deer hit in the neck can get away because the vein,airway, and neck bones arent that big in the neck. could be just a flesh wound. so there...you wanna call me a poacher come say it to my face. I hunt with family, yeah, we are very competetive as who can get that biggest deer that year. it's an honor.that 140" buck i got because of my so called spoiled hunting land, i worked for. I missed two dandy bucks the day before. I stayed on stand and froze. I looked at my maps to find the best spot to post a drive. i worked to get up in that spot. I sat ona cold rock and waited. i connected, knocked the deer down with one shot, killing him. just because the shot didnt touch heart/lung area doesnt mean its wrong. anti hunters would be appalled by gut shots, not shots that fully incapcitate a deer and kill it within seconds. I have the utmost respect for my game. just because i condone shots that you guys consider unethical i guess is just too darn bad.

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