30 pt Poached IA deer?
05-26-2006, 09:17 PM
#42
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: May 2005
Location: One mile east of West Podunk Tx
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RE: 30 pt Poached IA deer?
THS78, WE WILL JUST HAVE TO DISAGREE ON THIS ONE.I THINK HE SHOULD GO TO JAIL. HE BROKE THE LAW. AND AS FAR AS ME BEING A PURITAN, NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. I'VE MADE PLENTY OF MISTAKES IN MY LIFE AND I'VE PAID THE PRICE FOR THEM. I GUESS YOU'RE OK WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION TOO. AFTER ALL THEY JUST WANT A BETTER LIFE FOR THIER FAMILIES. OR MAYBE THE DRUNK THAT CRASHES INTO A TREE AND WALKS AWAY, NO HARM NO FOUL RIGHT?
WHEN I SAID A HUGE FINE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE YEARS TO PAY. FIND OUT WHAT HE CAN AFFORD AND THEN DOUBLE THAT. WRITE A LETTER TO THE JUDGE? OH YEAH, THAT WOULD REALLY SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE TO OTHER POTENTIAL POACHERS. IF THERE ARE NO MEANINGFUL CONSEQUENCES TO HIS ACTIONS WHAT WILL STOP HIM OR OTHERS FROM DOING THE SAME THING? WE HAVE LAWS FOR A REASON. I DON'T THINK JUSTICE WOULD BE SERVED BY LETTING A PERSON WALK WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST IF HE IS INDEED GUILTY OF POACHING. I AGREE THAT THE JAIL TIME MAY BE SEVERE AND I WAS REACTING WITH ANGER. MAYBE ALOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE AND A FINE. AND MAYBE 5 YRS LOSS OF HUNTING PRIVLEGE RATHER THAN LIFE BUT SURELY NOT A PASS.
WHEN I SAID A HUGE FINE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE YEARS TO PAY. FIND OUT WHAT HE CAN AFFORD AND THEN DOUBLE THAT. WRITE A LETTER TO THE JUDGE? OH YEAH, THAT WOULD REALLY SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE TO OTHER POTENTIAL POACHERS. IF THERE ARE NO MEANINGFUL CONSEQUENCES TO HIS ACTIONS WHAT WILL STOP HIM OR OTHERS FROM DOING THE SAME THING? WE HAVE LAWS FOR A REASON. I DON'T THINK JUSTICE WOULD BE SERVED BY LETTING A PERSON WALK WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST IF HE IS INDEED GUILTY OF POACHING. I AGREE THAT THE JAIL TIME MAY BE SEVERE AND I WAS REACTING WITH ANGER. MAYBE ALOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE AND A FINE. AND MAYBE 5 YRS LOSS OF HUNTING PRIVLEGE RATHER THAN LIFE BUT SURELY NOT A PASS.
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05-28-2006, 02:58 AM
#44
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IDAHO
Posts: 252
RE: 30 pt Poached IA deer?
I never realized poachers had a age limit. Seriously how can you not throw the book at someone for shooting a 30pt trophy or any deer w/o proper tags. Better yet appears the guy had no tag to start with. I obviously don't know all the facts, but it doesn't look good for the guy.
05-28-2006, 09:30 AM
#45
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: South Central Missouri
Posts: 3,112
RE: 30 pt Poached IA deer?
#1- ALWAYS follow good hunting ethics!!
#2- If you have no tag, you don't carry a weapon into the field to watch game.
#3- If you are scouting, you use visual aids, not a weapon.
#4- If you are target shooting, you shoot at targets, not live game.
#5- If you are poaching, you should pay the price of the state you are in. No matter your age or the circumstances. If you have a doe tag and a monster buck walks in and you shoot it,,,,YOU ARE WRONG!! (know your target)
There is simply no excuse for poaching. Only someone who deems themselves to be above the law would do this and think it is ok. You pay the price for your actions and hopefully learn from them.
If someone comes to our huntcamp with no tag, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp with the wrong weapon, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp and shoots an animal they don't have a tag for, should we just keep our mouths shut and let it ride? NO
Why? Because each of the things would be breaking the law. The laws are set so that we can manage the game we hunt. If one is allowed to break them, then why not the next and next. Many eyes in this wonderful country we live are upon us as Hunters to try and stop us from what we love to do. If we show them we will break whatever laws we want to achieve whatever game we want, we are showing them we are no better than the criminals we put in prisons for more serious crimes.
No matter how you put it or how you look at it, if you understand good hunting ethics and practices, Poaching is just wrong and illegal...PERIOD
#2- If you have no tag, you don't carry a weapon into the field to watch game.
#3- If you are scouting, you use visual aids, not a weapon.
#4- If you are target shooting, you shoot at targets, not live game.
#5- If you are poaching, you should pay the price of the state you are in. No matter your age or the circumstances. If you have a doe tag and a monster buck walks in and you shoot it,,,,YOU ARE WRONG!! (know your target)
There is simply no excuse for poaching. Only someone who deems themselves to be above the law would do this and think it is ok. You pay the price for your actions and hopefully learn from them.
If someone comes to our huntcamp with no tag, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp with the wrong weapon, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp and shoots an animal they don't have a tag for, should we just keep our mouths shut and let it ride? NO
Why? Because each of the things would be breaking the law. The laws are set so that we can manage the game we hunt. If one is allowed to break them, then why not the next and next. Many eyes in this wonderful country we live are upon us as Hunters to try and stop us from what we love to do. If we show them we will break whatever laws we want to achieve whatever game we want, we are showing them we are no better than the criminals we put in prisons for more serious crimes.
No matter how you put it or how you look at it, if you understand good hunting ethics and practices, Poaching is just wrong and illegal...PERIOD
05-30-2006, 06:50 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Elizabeth Colo. USA
Posts: 4,413
RE: 30 pt Poached IA deer?
What good are laws if those who break them go unpunished?? He broke the law, so it seems, and if so, he should be punished accordingly!
the rack alone probably weighs what a whole deer, on the hoof,willin FL!!
the rack alone probably weighs what a whole deer, on the hoof,willin FL!!
05-30-2006, 06:55 PM
#48
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fairbanks, AK
Posts: 3,132
RE: 30 pt Poached IA deer?
ORIGINAL: deerdust
#1- ALWAYS follow good hunting ethics!!
#2- If you have no tag, you don't carry a weapon into the field to watch game.
#3- If you are scouting, you use visual aids, not a weapon.
#4- If you are target shooting, you shoot at targets, not live game.
#5- If you are poaching, you should pay the price of the state you are in. No matter your age or the circumstances. If you have a doe tag and a monster buck walks in and you shoot it,,,,YOU ARE WRONG!! (know your target)
There is simply no excuse for poaching. Only someone who deems themselves to be above the law would do this and think it is ok. You pay the price for your actions and hopefully learn from them.
If someone comes to our huntcamp with no tag, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp with the wrong weapon, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp and shoots an animal they don't have a tag for, should we just keep our mouths shut and let it ride? NO
Why? Because each of the things would be breaking the law. The laws are set so that we can manage the game we hunt. If one is allowed to break them, then why not the next and next. Many eyes in this wonderful country we live are upon us as Hunters to try and stop us from what we love to do. If we show them we will break whatever laws we want to achieve whatever game we want, we are showing them we are no better than the criminals we put in prisons for more serious crimes.
No matter how you put it or how you look at it, if you understand good hunting ethics and practices, Poaching is just wrong and illegal...PERIOD
#1- ALWAYS follow good hunting ethics!!
#2- If you have no tag, you don't carry a weapon into the field to watch game.
#3- If you are scouting, you use visual aids, not a weapon.
#4- If you are target shooting, you shoot at targets, not live game.
#5- If you are poaching, you should pay the price of the state you are in. No matter your age or the circumstances. If you have a doe tag and a monster buck walks in and you shoot it,,,,YOU ARE WRONG!! (know your target)
There is simply no excuse for poaching. Only someone who deems themselves to be above the law would do this and think it is ok. You pay the price for your actions and hopefully learn from them.
If someone comes to our huntcamp with no tag, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp with the wrong weapon, should we let them hunt anyway? NO
If someone comes to our huntcamp and shoots an animal they don't have a tag for, should we just keep our mouths shut and let it ride? NO
Why? Because each of the things would be breaking the law. The laws are set so that we can manage the game we hunt. If one is allowed to break them, then why not the next and next. Many eyes in this wonderful country we live are upon us as Hunters to try and stop us from what we love to do. If we show them we will break whatever laws we want to achieve whatever game we want, we are showing them we are no better than the criminals we put in prisons for more serious crimes.
No matter how you put it or how you look at it, if you understand good hunting ethics and practices, Poaching is just wrong and illegal...PERIOD
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