Why use #7 shot or have it in a blend?
#62
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his numbers are made up. none of us have taken those shots and there was not a study or data collection done to get those numbers. he was trying to prove his point with the numbers he thought was right. and in all seriousness there is no way in hell anyone should be shooting at a turkey without a 100% so even his beloved hevi 5s (according to his numbers and even though his numbers are not correct the pattern falls off way to bad at that distance) should never be attempted at that distance.
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A voice of reason! I'm just waiting for the "children might read this and shoot 70 yards your a terrible turkey hunter you couldn't possibly have a more effective set up than me posts"
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oh I would still like to see patterns at 75 yards.
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Brad C., I have no idea who you are or what your thinking, or even why your so caught up in pellet count.
That being said, as you stated you can't learn when you already know it all, here is what I bring to the table, since I started turkey hunting in 1974 I have taken 162 turkeys, over 100 of those were taken with a custom built valmet 412 with a mark bansner turkey predator choke that measures .632, mark developed this choke to pattern at least 90% in a 30" circle at 40 yards, mine will consistently pattern at 94% using federal premiem 2 oz loads, like I said I have taken turkeys to 76 yards with it, I never had one get away wounded, and I will with confidance kill them at 75 yards and none of your numbers mumbo jumbo will change that. now I suggest you back off the banter till you can prove that nobody can kill turkeys consistently at the ranges. If there is a problem I can contact a mod to moderate so to speak.
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That being said, as you stated you can't learn when you already know it all, here is what I bring to the table, since I started turkey hunting in 1974 I have taken 162 turkeys, over 100 of those were taken with a custom built valmet 412 with a mark bansner turkey predator choke that measures .632, mark developed this choke to pattern at least 90% in a 30" circle at 40 yards, mine will consistently pattern at 94% using federal premiem 2 oz loads, like I said I have taken turkeys to 76 yards with it, I never had one get away wounded, and I will with confidance kill them at 75 yards and none of your numbers mumbo jumbo will change that. now I suggest you back off the banter till you can prove that nobody can kill turkeys consistently at the ranges. If there is a problem I can contact a mod to moderate so to speak.
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That's the best one I have heard yet. And you call yourself a turkey hunter. You need to to shovel your trash talk somewhere else where maybe someone will be dumb enough to believe your bs.
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example.
couple years ago. I pulled into hunt a place. while getting stuff rounded up. a car pulls in. guy gets out. I walk back to find out details on where he planned to hunt. we chat for a minute and he proceeded to tell me that he missed a bird a couple days prior. then tells me it was at about 50 yards. ok now doubting he actually missed but rather sprayed the bird and hit it in nonlethal areas. we chat. I ask about his gun. he pulled out a Mossberg 500 with a smoothbore slug barrel and a scope on it. no the barrel was not threaded. it was a smoothbore slug barrel which ment the "choke" is nonexsistant and the barrel is cylinder bore all the way out. I said is that what you used. he said yes. I said did you shoot it with turkey loads. he said no it is sighted in for slugs and they are smaller so it ought to be sighted in. there is no way the guy missed completely at 50 yards. no doubt a few pellets found the bird just in nonlethal places. I asked why he tried a shot that far and he said because he was told those shells could kill at that distance.
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ridgerunner, again how many of those 16 hit brain/spine. and sir you do not know my credentials at all. I have killed many birds and been the contributing factor in around 200 kills. most guns were set up by me. the whole point of the 10 circle is exactly what you stated. a bird moves his head or the shooter is not lined up proper. so a nice even 10 circle with 200+ hits and there is no doubt that bird is dead. btw I use a scope. beads are a whole topic in themselves and have no place in turkey or deer hunting.
and yes I say 16 in head/neck mean nothing. the only pellets that matter is the ones in the brain/spine and bottom line the tighter the pattern the better the odds of putting the most hits in the brain/spine
and yes I say 16 in head/neck mean nothing. the only pellets that matter is the ones in the brain/spine and bottom line the tighter the pattern the better the odds of putting the most hits in the brain/spine
#69
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whatever brad, I've done way more stuff with firearms than killed turkeys, I know what they are capable of, you say I'm talkin trash, prove it or shut up! just cause you say it, don't make it so. I know what I've done, and folks here know that I'm not one to lie and BS, I just tell it like it is.
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but as a second thought, if your so sure copper coated lead 6's have no power at 75 yards, tell ya what we can do.
Take a 4x8 foot sheet of plywood, cut a 12" hole in it, stand it up, stick your bare posterior through it and I'll be glad to demonstrate what they are capable of from 75 yards away, just tell me what weekend to be there
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Take a 4x8 foot sheet of plywood, cut a 12" hole in it, stand it up, stick your bare posterior through it and I'll be glad to demonstrate what they are capable of from 75 yards away, just tell me what weekend to be there
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second I did not say they did not have it. I used your thread to illustrate to the OP (because this thread has gotten off topic so you may need to go look and see what it is supposed to be about) that hevi 7s have enough energy and it is proven fact that hevi 7s have more energy and hit harder than lead 6s at the same distance.