Why use #7 shot or have it in a blend?
#91
Fork Horn
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Well they also won't pattern like the Hevi-13 loads will. Nor will they kill as far. But I know some say they can. Let's just forget about those 75yd turkey shots and let's just call it a day. I'm game. No more talk of long shots and we can put all this talk what was said behind us.
Call it a truce.
Call it a truce.
#93
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actuall they did get boycotted and lost a lot of business when they first put that claim out a couple of years ago. but the fact remains that you can not beat their product. now if federal would get their head out their butt and do a 2oz 3 inch 7 and a 2.25oz 3.5 inch load then I bet a lot of guys would jump wagon. they are even heavier at 15g than hevi shot at 12g
#94
Fork Horn
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Lol prob would be a bad time to bring up years ago knew a guy who shot twice back to back w a semi auto I will leave the distance out of the equation bird falls over he walks up bird comes fully back to life in his hands. He took the bird to be mounted and one pellet was found that did not penetrate the skull but simply knocked it out. No other damage on the entire bird. I will call a truce however as I know a story like that had no place on a public forum and no that was not myself.
#95
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actuall they did get boycotted and lost a lot of business when they first put that claim out a couple of years ago. but the fact remains that you can not beat their product. now if federal would get their head out their butt and do a 2oz 3 inch 7 and a 2.25oz 3.5 inch load then I bet a lot of guys would jump wagon. they are even heavier at 15g than hevi shot at 12g
There is talk on Old Gobbler by a couple guys that said they heard Federal was going to stop making the heavyweight turkey loads.
#96
Fork Horn
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Not to stir anymore controversy but isn't hevi shot 10% heavier than lead it would seem like 10% would give u an advantage but not what many claim have in your opinions 7s really changed from what was commonly though of as 35 yard pellets to 50-55 with only a 10 % increase in density. Logically you would think efficiency would increase 10 % or 3-5 yards but obviously there are other factors in play. Just seems like a big jump when at the root it is still only 10% denser
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Not to stir anymore controversy but isn't hevi shot 10% heavier than lead it would seem like 10% would give u an advantage but not what many claim have in your opinions 7s really changed from what was commonly though of as 35 yard pellets to 50-55 with only a 10 % increase in density. Logically you would think efficiency would increase 10 % or 3-5 yards but obviously there are other factors in play. Just seems like a big jump when at the root it is still only 10% denser
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I did not write this to start it back up but simply to help you see our side. I wont write again guys sorry.
#100
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oh I would still like to see patterns at 75 yards
Ridge why are you wasting time with us when you could be out there dominating the still target competition world and setting world records? A gun that will throw a 100% killing pattern of lead 6's at 76 yards should still be shooting one ragged hole at the distance they fire at in still target competitions. Not only could you set the new world record for number of pellets in the 3 inch circle they shoot at, but you could conceivably shoot the entire 3 inch circle clean out of the target. LOL!
I can't see how I can even carry on a serious conversation with you. Setting aside the fact that I do not believe for a minute that you are getting anything that could even still be called a pattern at 76 yards with lead 6's I will instead say for the record that lead 6's will not consistently kill turkeys at 76 yards. Has it "ever" happened? Maybe but it would be a very lucky golden BB indeed. Probably have to hit him in the eye. The only thing that will pattern and kill to that distance consistently is hand loaded TSS shot. But TSS is 18gm/cc in density compared to leads 10 or 11gm/cc. And it's 100 times harder than lead. But that's a whole different ballgame that has no bearing on what's being claimed here. I will try to dig up the amount of kinetic energy a lead 6 pellet would have left out past 70 yards and get back to you. Trust me, it ain't a lot.
But by all means you feel free to prove me wrong. Where do you want to meet to shoot a 76 yard lead 6 pattern for me? I promise I will come back here and eat a plate of crow that would choke a mule if you can demonstrate a good pattern at that distance with any lead 6 shell. Oh, but I insist we use my range finder cause I think there is something wrong with yours. LOL!