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Old 09-28-2004 | 09:51 PM
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Not me guys, my bow is cranking my b-heads right in there out to 40 yards. It seems everyone else is having some sort of problem.

Yesterday, my sisters boyfriend had his bow at my place and was shooting. His groups were terrible, even when he shot at 15 yards! Well, I looked it over and noticed that his timing was off and a few other problems. I called up my buddy who works on my bow and we took his down there. Well, the bow is a dual cam HCA and the cams were out of sync! Also, his "proshop" had installed his cables the wrong way when he got them changed. They were crossing above the cable guard instead of below. Then, after getting these fixed he shot through paper and the bow wasn't tuned! Well, the arrow rest had been set up improperly so it had to be reset and the spring tension had to be adjusted! After the rest was fixed, he shot through paper and it was nock low left. Some adjustments later and the bow is tuned perfectly! Well, he called me today as he was shooting at his house and he said that he is grouping much better now, but he is shooting 1-1/2" to the left with every shot! No biggie EXCEPT that when he moved his site to compensate, it doesn't do anything! Tommorow I will check it out and try to help him out. He hasn't even had time to shoot his broadheads yet! Has anybody ever heard of this type of thing, where adjustments to the sight don't work?

Well, if that wasn't bad enough, my best friend called me today. He had his bow out shooting today and with field points, he is stacking them in the bullseye out to 45 yards. Well, he strapped on his thunderheads and shot. He shot at 15 yards and he was getting awsome groups except they were about 2" high and 2" to the left. Well, he then stepped back to 25 yards and shot and he was 3" low and 3" to the right. When he stepped back to 35 yards, he was getting bullseyes! So, now tommorow we have to try and fix this problem. I am gonna spin check his arrows and make sure that they are fine. It just seems odd that he is getting good groups in a diagonal line especially since the bow has been paper tuned and group tuned! If we can't figure out what is happening with his t-heads, I am gonna throw one of my Montecs on and see how he does, if that doesn't work, we are gonna put some Rocky MT Snypers on and see what happens.

Geez...... these people are my friends, but talk about dumb [:-] Why would you wait till a few days before season to check these type of things out. Granted, I have my bow ready to go, but I still have alot of work to do before Saturdays opener. I have to gather all of my hunting clothes, wash them, gather all of my gear, make sure it is all scent free. Tommorow my new Deer Cam DC-200 should be here so I am gonna take that to one of the areas I plan on leaving along till the end of October and set it up. I have to check my Stealth Cam that is set-up. I have gotta get new shrink tubbing to put on my climbers cables, ect. ect..
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Old 09-29-2004 | 12:19 AM
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If I were you,,, I'd just spray them guys down with scent eliminator and tell them that they are ready to hunt
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Old 09-29-2004 | 05:26 AM
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Jason,

Just a suggestion but for the gentleman whose bow is shooting broadheads inconsistantly....Is it possible he is either canting the bow or that his sight is mounted on the riser at an angle. Either issue would cause his groups to drift from one side of the bullseye to the other at various distances.

Just a thought.
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Old 09-29-2004 | 06:17 AM
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I see the same thing with almost ALL of the bowhunters i know around here--they are basically clueless about working on their own stuff.These are the guys that buy a bow 2 or 3 weeks before season and shoot maybe 50 arrows preparing for season and think they are ready to hunt.They also don't scout much if any,they go put up stands the week before season and they only hunt for an hour or two and they go stomping back to the car after a HARD day of hunting.These folks will only bag a deer by dumb luck and nothing more.I have helped many of them get their bows and arrows ready but i can't control the way they go about hunting--It's a shame they spend all that money and think they are now hunters!I'm betting that a high number of these weekend warriors have someone else gut the deer for them also either because they have no knife or just don't like "that part of hunting"[:@].I could go on and on but i'll stop here--for now.
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Old 09-29-2004 | 02:59 PM
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I can top that story jsasker. They legalized crossbow hunting here in Md for use during the firearms season and 2 two week seasons during bowseason. Let me first state that I have no objection to anyone using a crossbow if they do it ethnically and well. I have a permit due to a shoulder surgery but will enjoy using my vertical bow unitl I'm not able to anymore. Anywho, I cannot tell you how many times I have been in my local Bass Pro Shop and have seen noobs buying a new crossbow with all the accessories, have it setup in the store and get a new climbing treestand on Friday night so they can go hunt Saturday morning. I have even seen some pull up to public places that I hunt around 6:30 am(twilight is 6:45), slamming their truck doors, talking loudly and using a freaking floodlight to walk to some tree that looks good. Usually takes them about an hour to climb up and finally get settled. Meanwhile I just sit there shaking my head before I finally get down and leave and they never even knew I was there. I wish there was some way to stop this kind of action but it's a free country filled with all kinds of people and I fear it will continue until the great privilege of hunting is abolished.

Whew, let me step down off of my soapbox.
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Old 09-29-2004 | 04:00 PM
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If I've got a problem, it's trying to decide which bow I want to hunt with. They're all tuned up and ready to go. I've got till 4 AM Saturday to decide.
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Old 09-29-2004 | 05:24 PM
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Arthur- That's a great place to be!

Buck, I'm one of those guys this year. I was fooled into thinking I had it nailed as I was always shooting from 20 yards to the target. That's the exact distance from my shop door to my backstop. Both field tips and B/h's grouping nicely- piece of cake.
UNTIL I stepped back to 30 to pick out my best BH/arrow partners. Much to my surprise the 30 yards groups are/were horrible.

Luckily for me my back-ups are on so I won't miss the opener, but my newest bow has me perplexed.
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Old 09-29-2004 | 10:40 PM
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Well guys, I got a good update.

My best friend (the one with the b-head problem) has fixed it. Today, he shot my Montecs and he was getting good groups at 15, 25, and 35 yards but they were about 2" high and 2" to the left. Well, he went to the bow-shop to pick up some Montecs with the plans of just moving his site to where the b-heads were hitting, but he was talked into getting the new N.A.P. Crossfires and when he brought them over to shoot, he was grouping right with his field points at all distances. At 25 yards, he was getting 1-1/2" groups. His arrows are flying great, so he is happy. He is gonna try and get as much shooting in with these heads as he can in the next two days.

Now, as far as my sisters boyfriend. Well, he decided today that he didn't need my help anymore. He took his bow to his house and sighted it in the rest of the way. From what I heard from my sister, he is getting good groups, but he still hasn't shot his b-heads [:@] I was planning on inviting him to hunt with me on Tuesday, but I don't think that will be happening. Until I know he is good with his equipment, I don't want him in my woods! I hope he is shooting good, but I have done all I can, he doesn't want my help anymore!
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Old 09-30-2004 | 12:11 AM
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Buck, I know I found myself in somewhat of a sad state this year as well but get this-

My neighbor asked me why I shoot so much. Then stated he just pulls his bow out a week before season and makes sure it still on, hasn't had to touch it in 3 years[8D]. He's shooting mechanicals so IHO he's good to go.
What really bites is he's hunting posted land and will probably take a monster while I'm staying honest on my crappy piney woods lease and will be lucky to get at shot at a 100" deer.
Oh well, time will tell.[:-]
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