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Old 06-20-2004 | 07:59 PM
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Hey, I go on vacation for one week, and look what you guys have been up to.[8D]

These threads are always entertaining though. Right up there with Mathews bows as a hot-button issue.
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Old 06-20-2004 | 08:33 PM
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A "mountain of torn up fletching"? Wouldn't that be good for business?
LOL you got that right!

I certanly dont try to twist any ones arm to buy what I preferr over the WB
but anyone who comes back after buying one to complain about it eating up their fletchings cant say I didnt tell them so
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Old 06-20-2004 | 10:39 PM
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I certanly dont try to twist any ones arm to buy what I preferr over the WB but anyone who comes back after buying one to complain about it eating up their fletchings cant say I didnt tell them so
Well I used to trim the old WB to make it easier on fletchings but as I said before that is no longer necessary with the new B2 model. I have been shooting the same two arrows for a month now just as my own personal test of fletching wear and I see none....thats right you heard me NONE. The new zone specific fibers work and in doing so have eliminated the only problem I had with this rest. I now see no reason to use anything else for hunting. Anyone getting excessive fletching damage from the new model is doing something wrong. (I don't care if they are the CEO of The International Bow Tuners Society.) They either have the rest set up where the arrow isn't passing through it at a perfect right angle , or its offset to the point that the fletchings are contacting the metal rim, or they are torquing their bow so badly when they shoot its causing the fletchings to hit the bristles at a weird angle.
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Old 06-20-2004 | 11:01 PM
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Arthur, In this case, if you were using the same arrow shaft, could it have been a spine problem?

I don't know how well the Blazers work or don't but I wonder if this was an issue with the vanes lacking control because they don't offer enough stabilization, or they lacked control because spine was too weak with the heavier tips..
Jeff, if anything, my arrows were way overspine with broadheads less than 100 gns. Besides, I had established my baseline arrow flight/accuracy with all my test broadheads using the same arrows fletched with 4" feathers before refletching with the Blazers. I am convinced it was lack of stabilization on the larger heads.
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Old 06-20-2004 | 11:03 PM
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BowFan:

A good way to earn credibility around here is to form a biased (good or bad ) opinion of a product based on ones own trials!
BS! I have heard that cry too often. Evaluation based on personal use or observing the use (test) is "performance evaluation." Ever hear of "design evaluation" where the design and intended and predicted performance is weighed (evaluated) against a historical information base regarding known application and performance requirements? Manufacturers would dance in the streets if all their products were evaluated only by purchase and use.

Because of its design, I would not ever consider using the rest. However, that is my personal opinion and choice.
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Old 06-20-2004 | 11:58 PM
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Jeff, if anything, my arrows were way overspine with broadheads less than 100 gns. Besides, I had established my baseline arrow flight/accuracy with all my test broadheads using the same arrows fletched with 4" feathers before refletching with the Blazers. I am convinced it was lack of stabilization on the larger heads.
I have to agree that it is a lack of stabelization with an airplane wing hanging on the front of your arrow requires a lot more area to spin a heavy wide wind grabbing slow tired arrow
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Old 06-21-2004 | 05:37 AM
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BS! I have heard that cry too often. Evaluation based on personal use or observing the use (test) is "performance evaluation." Ever hear of "design evaluation" where the design and intended and predicted performance is weighed (evaluated) against a historical information base regarding known application and performance requirements?
Are the Einsteinish replies to everything really necessary? Your websters breakdown of the two types of evaluation had me rolling on the floor.

Here's what you wrote:
Evaluation based on personal use or observing the use (test) is "performance evaluation." Ever hear of "design evaluation" where the design and intended and predicted performance is weighed (evaluated) against a historical information base regarding known application and performance requirements?
Here's what I read:There are two types of opinions based on evaluation. Credible opinions based on actual scientific research of the product (use of said product).
Non credible opinions based on design of said product without any actual trial of the product , based solely on the lack of desire to think outside the box or except that new innovations could possibly exist that would go against the grain of old standards , ie to be set in ones ways.


Anyway , "performance evaluation" holds ten fold the credibility over "design evaluation"!

Manufacturers would dance in the streets if all their products were evaluated only by purchase and use.
And to think that Carolina Archery Products are "dancing in the streets" now! Thats after everyone laughed at their idea in the beginning. I'd like to thank those true pioneers of "performance evaluation" who were the first to try the WB!
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Old 06-21-2004 | 06:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: c903

atlas:

You need to step back and take a deep breath. You get too distraught and spend too much time unnecessarily listing quotes and posting your corresponding response.

You may be trying too hard too prematurely advance your archery/bowhunting related knowledge. In doing so, you take some things said too personally and become so upset you tend to start rebutting in a nonsensical interpretation and manner.
Distraught??? Either you don't know what that word means or you are reading waaay too much into my posts.

Did ya see it??........you almost made it through a post without a personal insult trying to bring someone else down in an attempt to make yourself look better.........almost.

You are right out of the textbooks


So are you ever gonna address your angry overreaction to a simple joke that started all this............or just keep pretending it was me that "can dish it out but can't take it"


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Old 06-21-2004 | 06:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: BOWFANATIC

Credibility is earned!


ORIGINAL: c903

BS! I have heard that cry too often.


That is priceless..............coming from a guy who publicly turns his nose up at anyone who HE considers not experienced enough to voice an opinion.

I can't even believe you wrote that!! []
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Old 06-21-2004 | 06:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: Bigpapascout

Marketing is a great tool to brain wash the publick in believing something is superior over a different brand.
but then you hear first hand of things that arent so perfect about the product and you want to criticize the messanger?
I would say that CAP has gotten to where they are today with the WB by word of mouth between hunters and not marketing.

I don't see full page ads in every magazine out there and I have seen them on hunting shows no more then others.

I think people bought them, liked them and shared that experience with friends...........that is the best marketing machine you can ask for.
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