I understand that he is managing his land in order to support a higher deer density, but he also admitted he has too many deer to allow adequate regeneration and that is why he applied for DMAP tags to reduce the herd. I have no problem with guys buying land and managing it for deer until they tell me that is the solution to the current mismanagement by the PGC.

BTW, the SGLs are managed to support higher deer densities than SFL , yet they are managed at the same DD. PA hunters bought those SGLs so why isn't the herd on SGLs managed for the hunters instead of DCNR and the timber industry?

You whine about lands with to few deer you whine about lands with to many deer, the common denominator is, you are a very unhappy man, and to tell you the truth I'm not so sure about the man part.

And because you have the money and the means to have your private deer farm, you think the rest of us should shut up and accept the crap the PGC feeds us.

I also noticed you can't or won't answer my question about the management of our SGLs. Aren't you man enough to answer a simple question?

I have the money and means because I have more drive then to live my life on the government dole.
And just like food stamp allotments government land interest me none, I don't go through life with my hands out asking others to do for me what I am more than capable of doing for my self.

I really wish more of you had the drive to not seek the goober-mans permission to achieve on your own.

I think the reality is that he has his own land and he has good hunting. That's all that matters to him. He could care less about the rest of us and what goes on around him. His buddy BTbowhunter is the same way. Two peas in a pod so to speak.

Thats is a good point. The PGC has massive food plots on several sgls around me. The one in sgl 110 goes about a mile on top of the blue mountain. Why mantain these things and rotate crops for deer if they are going to manage dd for a natural forest habitat.

I question sometimes if you guys actually read what is posted.
I have good hunting because I made it a priority to do so, I worked hard and bought land, I did not buy 4 wheelers or new trucks I made land payments as any of you could do.

If I've said it once I posted it a dozen times that I feel you as hunters have the ability to control the quality of your hunting, some of you don't want to hear that and blame bureaucrats for destroying Pa's deer herds. I refuse to let some pencil head in Harrisburg take from me something I love.
In the second season I spend a lot of time grouse hunting in 2f and 2g and after reading about there not being any deer left I find it surprising how many a man and a bird dog can move in a few hours of busting brush.

i agree with you.sgl have best habitat and worst deer numbers.no only deer but no grouse and very few rabbits and stocked pheasants that dont last 3 days after stocking them.

just to much hunting pressure ,kill, kill, kill until all gone.i see it fishing too. bush dam used to have nice numbers of crappie/perch.they fished it almost out,its terrible fishing.same fisherman are there day in/day out taking every fish home in bucket.most are not 6 inchs long.

those same people COMPLAIN,sproul there are no fish, dam fish commission.same with pgc, dam game commission.
i blame MEAT hungry fisherman /hunters for this and pgc/pfbc for not finding ways to stop this.

most of kids if they get away from some of these dads,they are real good sportsman.i sat in boat and listened to this,KID CAUGHT A NICE 19 INCH BASS.FATHER SAID, PUT THAT FISH IN THE MEAT BUCKET.KID SAID,NO SHE IS GOING BACK....

i yelled over AMEN to his kid.father to this day does not talk to me and drives his truck over yellow line like he is going to scare me on highway.some day when he does that i am going to throw a ice cream cone ACCIDENTLY out window.

i wonder what flavor he would like?

Because we do in fact read what you post it is obvious that you are a narrow minded self centered individual that cares little about his fellow hunters. Furthermore , you half baked solution to better hunting will create the same problems that the PGC claims to be addressing. Bowtruck, may plant crops for his deer on his 1080 acres, but if he has a neighbor with a commercial farm,an orchard, nursery or truck farm ,that neighbor will not appreciate having 50 DPSM . If a neighbor wants to timber his property and Bowtruck has 50 DPSM the neighbor is going to have a hard time getting adequate regeneration. Also, tying up more private land for a limited numbers of hunters will only compound the problem on public land. So your proposed solution to the PGC's current mismanagement is even more mismanagement.

You are absolutely correct sproul. Some of it is plain greed and alot of it ego. They just have to prove they are the almighty hunter or fisherman.