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Old 08-08-2008 | 07:11 PM
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My point is more towars the idea that many if not most states DO favor residents first. Does your home state of Ohio give doe tags to NR's before resident demand is exhausted? I know that
PA does favor residents first. But after every PA resident had his chance.,PA choose to treat all hunters equally on the second round. The only reason for opposing this process would be pure greed.
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Old 08-08-2008 | 07:27 PM
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BTBowhunter, Ohio sells doe tags over the counter. I can kill up tp 5 deer, 1 buck only Resident and Non resident alike.. And just to push a little, we can hunt Xsow, compound etc. all the same license doesn't matter. Only thing in OH we cannot shoot rifles. BUt I can shoot a semi auto pistol for deer (: , or a semi slug gun (: . Of course in PA I can get my pump gun ging as fast if not faster than a semi.
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Old 08-08-2008 | 07:29 PM
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Any one that wants a tag should get it before anybody gets two.
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Old 08-08-2008 | 08:08 PM
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It depends on how you look at it. Right now WMU-2-G is sold out, a non resident who owns a camp and pays taxes up there aint got a shot at a doe tag. The same thing happened last yr in WMU 2-F gone in 4 days and 2-Gs gone in 3 days.
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Old 08-08-2008 | 09:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: TWOWITHONE

It depends on how you look at it. Right now WMU-2-G is sold out, a non resident who owns a camp and pays taxes up there aint got a shot at a doe tag. The same thing happened last yr in WMU 2-F gone in 4 days and 2-Gs gone in 3 days.
With only 917 left as of today, 2F is a sure sellout before the NR's get a crack at them this year as well
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Old 08-09-2008 | 03:58 AM
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DougE:
I commend you for your very 1st post in this thread,,,it just could not have been written better by anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a NR hunter but in 24 yrs of living out of state i have never applied for a doe tag just for the simple reason that my family all gets their doe tags and for the past 7 yrs or so i just could'nt justify killing a doe in the area i hunt
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Old 08-09-2008 | 08:49 AM
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I don't have a problem with it because a fairly high percentage of those non-residents used to be Pa residents.Also,many have camps and pay property taxes.
At first blush, the topic made me mad. But DougE made a good point. We already show a preference to residents. There are valid reasons for giving non-residents a chance at tags too. There are multitudes of people whose lives cross state lines, their "home range" if you will.
I know that as far as the GC is concerned, the world is flat, and it ends at the state line. People don't live that way though, so provisions must be made.
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Old 08-09-2008 | 10:11 AM
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DougE does make a very valid point as have many others here.

I'd be all for NR's getting a preference in obtaining their first tag before anyone gets a second tag. Maybe I havent made myself clear here.

I'll use 2A because it generally sells out eventually but typically has tags available for the second round

Suppose two buddies a non resident and a residentsend for and gets their first tags for area 2A next week. Of course resident already gothis chance first and where numbers are limited as they are in PA, it seems fair to service residents first

Now we spin up to August 25. That samepair sends in fortheir second tags for 2A. (remember second round is open to all) Now lets assume the NR's application hits the desk first and they issue his tag. Still no problem yet. Now lets say that later in the day his resident buddy's app gets there but lo and behold, the allocation has run out....

Now you have the scenario where two hunters walk into the woods side by side one a resident and one a non resident and the NR was able to get a tag that was denied to his resident buddy. Thats the only practice I question. To me, it just aint right for a NR to possibly be able to pre-empt a resident on a limited resource. It's just my opinion and I recognize that many whom I respect and generally agree with here dont feel the same way. So be it. This is just my $.02

I agree that everyone should get a crack at one tag before the second tags go on sale. The time frames the PGc uses allow for that.

I dont have a great answer for how but I agree it would be greatto giveNR landowners some preference here. Some states have a structure for that. Maybe we should too.

I also wouldn't mind giving preference to NR's born here who simply are coming home to hunt with family but can only imagine the administrative challenges putting in a rule like that
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Old 08-09-2008 | 10:40 AM
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I see now Bob, what you're saying.
If there are enough tags for a second round, then the NR can get an additional tag when the resident maybe can't.
Well in that case I agree that the resident should benefit from any surplus first, and if there are enough, then the non-residents. It would seem fair because the NR already got a tag. It's not like they were excluded. I don't know what their reasoning is on that aspect of it, except to clear out the tags quickly, maybe? Making it more competitive means they go out the door faster I guess.
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Old 08-09-2008 | 12:58 PM
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It's not that hard to figure out. Residents get first crack, in some areas the allocation is sold out before non residents even get a chance. Then non residents get their opportunity. After that it's first come first served. Seems fair to me. If that second round application is sent in on time then from inside the state the mail system should get it to Harrisburg before coming from out of state.
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