So does the 20ga H&R shoot better groups than the 12ga H&R? or is the only advantage reduced recoil?

Ive never shot one in 12 gauge so i really couldnt tell how they shoot.Im getting inch and a half groups at 100 yards with 2 3/4 inch lightfields.Read up on the ballistics between the 12 and 20,there really isnt much difference between the 2 and the reduced recoil is nice.

I believe I am the only one able to speak of the actual differences shooting the USH's in 12 vs 20 side-by-side comparisons.

I got them both. I first bought the 12 gauge deluxe about 13(?) years ago. It was quite a thrill at that time to shoot a slug past 100 yards and put them all on a paper plate. I have always been very pleased with the 12 and it has filled the freezer so many times.

So when it was time for a slug gun for my boys I went right to the USH, but this time a standard 20 gauge. Think I paid $220 for the 20 gauge, brand new-minus scope. Paid like $170 for the 12 when new. (Hint: You can find them on the used gun racks) Both are fitted with straight up 4X scopes.

So now for the $100,000 question.............WHICH IS MORE ACCURATE?

On most days I say ........................the 20.

As far as recoil. The 12 is nothing to me. Great recoil pad and enough weight to absorb it. The 20? With 3-inch magnums - not worth mentioning.

Something to remember when you talk about slug guns. Is that there are slug guns and guns that can shoot slugs.

Like there are race cars which are carsspecifically designed and intendedfor racing only on a track.

And then you have your hot rod street cars that guys like to take to the track.

Which is going to perform better? Sure a McClaren F1 will go 200+ mph, but how do you think it will fare on a race track against a real 200 mph race car?

In my experience technology has come a long way and yes some pumps/autos fitted with cantilever slug barrels and scopes do pretty darn well (and I have such also) butrarely, and not consistently will they stack up to dedicated slug guns such as the Brownings, H&Rs, or Savage & Mossbergbolts.

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Like I said in my other post. The 20 ga slug guns are very comparable to a magnum inline muzzle loader. The biggest difference being they don't use black powder and you don't have to load them from the front.

They have very similar bullets, bullet weights, velocities and barrel twist rates. So if you think a modern inline magnum muzzle loader is enough to take a deer with, then there is no question that a 20 ga with modern sabots is plenty. Performance wise they are in par with a 45-70 using modern factory loadings. As a matter of fact winchester has shells for both the 45-70 and 20 ga that are very similar in design, weight and velocities.

It is really hard to say that a 20 ga will be more accurate than a 12 ga. That really depends on the gun and if you find a load it really likes. However I feel the 20's have the potential to be more forgiving of different loads and it would probably easier to find one that worked well, especially in the faster offerings. Most of the 12 ga guns don't care for the faster loads. Some do, but most I have talked to have better luck with speeds around or under 1700 fps with bullet weights from 400-450 grns.

Paul

Last fall I purchased an 870 12 ga. with 23" rifled barrel and a cantelever scope mount. I mounted a Nikon 2-7x 32mm Prostaff scope. Great set up, great price, and very accurate with Hornady SST's. Firsttime hunting with itI shot a large doe right through the heart at 110 yards.

The 870 is a great choice. If you have one already you can buy a rifled barrel with a cantilevered scope mount for around $250.

You can get them cheaper than that.

What sort of groups do you get with the hornady at 100 yards?

Paul

The problem with mossberg pump guns is they make too much noise. i would go with a remington 870 or a winchester 1300. i have all three and my personal favorite is my winchester i shoot 2-3/4 partition gold slugs through it. have killed around 25 deer with it and only a couple have needed to be tracked most pile up within a few feet.

I own a 12 ga. H&R ultra with a Nikon 3-9. All I can say is that it's a dream. I have Rem. 870, and 1100 slug guns which don't even come close to the accuracy of this babydoll. I shoot the lightfields 2 3/4, and get 1/2 inch groups at 100yds. I wouldn't think twice about reaching out to 115- 120 yds. (but would rather keep it at 100)

I've heard great things about the 20 ga. but have never shot one. I tend to just like things bigger, plustheitlooks really handsome with the heavy12 ga. 24" bull barrel and the Laminated American hardwood Monte Carlo pistol grip stock.

To add: The 12 ga. gets to bea little heavy in the field.