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Dg the original poster said 270 mag.He did not specify the 270 wby mag or the winchester short mag so he may have meant either.As to the accuracy thing it is far more dependant on the rifle and load than on the cartridge.As ths to comparing velocities of the various cartridges the only far way to do this is loading all to the same pressure with equal length barrels.A hot loaded 300wsm could very well produce more velocity than a milder 300 win mag load or from a short barreled rifle.Given equal pressures and barrel though the standard length mags will still produce more velocity than the wsm's.

Well, BC's must count for something in the hunting world. People seem to buying alot of Scirrocos, and BT. The round nose bullet(low BC) don't seem to sell in the deer community near as much as boattail's. So it must count for something. And as you so eligantly put it count for a crap.

DG wrote "Also, how did the WSM get into this conversation? The question was about the 270 and the 270 Mag, so answer his question with the facts if YOU have them. And to add, shot for shot I'll put my Mag against ANYTHING you can carry in the woods, including that 30 cal. thing. Thats how confident I am in my ability and the 270 Mag. Bring it!"

What do you mean put "it" up. Don't make sense to me. Do you mean go to newfoundland and shoot my 300RUM at only moose past 400 yards and you shoot your .270whatever it is. Or are you meeting me in Ky at the range. Or are you setting up a penetrations test against my 300rum or my .300 win. Man, your not making much sense here.

I assumed the man meant WSM in the .270 mag catagory. Funny thing, when someone mentions .270mag these days, not too many think of that weatherby cartridge. Sorry I forgot about weatherbys. Just don't see too many boxs of that at the gun store or to many people shooting them. Only .270's I see is wins and WSM.

So are these people in your "1000 yard club" shooting .270's???? There is a bunch of 1000 yard clubs all over the nation that does shoot animals. And yes, any of these guys I have talked to do worry about sectional density and bullistic coef. Maybe the club you belong to doesn't. Who knows.

Original Poster did not specify what 270 mag but there is so little difference what is the big deal?

People are buying Bts of all shapes and sizes with the mistaken belief that if they don't use them the bullet will fall 100 yard short of whatever target they are shooting at. This is a result of people with little or no hunting experience heeding the advice of these so-called gunwriters who are in bed with every bullet manufacturer. They liken the BC of a flatbase bullet to that of a 4x8 piece of plywood. Bt's can be good hunting bullets and a lot are but they are better target and extreme long range target bullets. I could care less about 2-4" drop difference at 400 yards I want the bullet to perform when it gets there. Read Nosler manual # 4 and read the Pro's and Cons of BT's ...remember these are the same people that make these bullets and have tested them on game...they should know on what it works and doesn't work.

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Oh man, DG, your snubbing me. Ain't ya going to reply to my message? I am just curious on what people in your "1000 yard club" shoots? Also, didn't know I maintained that a .270win wouldn't shoot that far. Man, are you sure your replying to the right post?

Oldelkhunter, I agree and have better luck with solid bases or semi boattails. Always seem to fly better. Especially if you crown of you barrel is out any at all. Thats why my limit is really 300 yards.

Edited by - bigcountry on 11/13/2002 17:34:23

DG - I'm with ya on the .270 Wby Mag. It really is all the rifle anyone would ever need for non-dangerous North American big game. With it, I made the longest shot I've ever had a chance to take on a game animal: 325 yards on a large bull elk. At that range, the 150gr Nosler Partition absolutely pummeled the elk, and he died in his tracks. <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle> The damage done by the bullet was amazing.

Having studied the ballistics for the new .270 WSM, it should be a winner, as well. Maybe not quite as powerful as the Weatherby, but close enough so that no dead animal should ever know the difference. And I as you and I both know, all this long range performance and game-killing power comes very nicely packaged with very manageable recoil.

Are these two rounds near perfect, or what?

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