baiting
12-08-2008, 06:29 PM
#151
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RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
Over an extended period of time yes. Baiting a is a quick fix for harvesting a deer. Year round baiting is one of the worst things you can do in regards to your deer herd because it increases disease transimission, deer are feeding in their own defecation and urine, it usually negatively affects their digestive system (their have been dead deer found that have a full stomach of corn that starved to death. Why? Because they were conditioned to a certain food source that was not natural) and it detrimental to your habitiat as well. Some forms of deer browse, that are able withstand heavy browsing, rely on browse for regeneration and growth and if they do not receive any browse it can take some species up to 100 years to 'fix themselves.'
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
Ok then?[&:] If you say so. Just find it comical with the number of deer killed over bait in my area, knowing these guys knowledge of deer...you're saying take away their corn pile and they have better odds?
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter
it absolutely hurts your chances
it absolutely hurts your chances
12-08-2008, 10:13 PM
#152
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RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter
I want to say that the study to which gmmat is referring involved year round baiting/feeding, not just a one or two time deal during hunting season. As far as doing this (year round) then it absolutely hurts your chances
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
If I was trying to go out and kill any oledeer, I believe 100% a cornpile 20 yards from my stand increases my odds, regardless of any study by any scientists. I used to do it, and umm...well, it works. It brings in deer. I haven't baited for 3-4 years now, and have success without it. But that's not to say a cornpile doesn't help. I can't believe people actually believe it actually hurts your chances?
Jeff, you target more specific deer, and older ones at that. I wouldn't consider you as someone who would benefit from baiting. But do you honestly feel if you were going to shoot the first deer, doe spike 14 pt doesnt matter, that came in...that it would be easier without a cornpile than with one?
If I was trying to go out and kill any oledeer, I believe 100% a cornpile 20 yards from my stand increases my odds, regardless of any study by any scientists. I used to do it, and umm...well, it works. It brings in deer. I haven't baited for 3-4 years now, and have success without it. But that's not to say a cornpile doesn't help. I can't believe people actually believe it actually hurts your chances?
Jeff, you target more specific deer, and older ones at that. I wouldn't consider you as someone who would benefit from baiting. But do you honestly feel if you were going to shoot the first deer, doe spike 14 pt doesnt matter, that came in...that it would be easier without a cornpile than with one?
I'd like to read where it actually hurts your chances (in the scenario I listed) because I just don't see that happening. Seems like every thing I read about it says it works and works well.
12-08-2008, 10:38 PM
#154
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RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Think about your "average" skill level of your "average" .........
nevermind.
Think about your "average" skill level of your "average" .........
nevermind.
12-08-2008, 10:50 PM
#155
Nontypical Buck
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RE: baiting
I'm not getting into the difference of placing a 100# bag of corn in the woods and hunting by a 100 acre corn field.
I'm not even going to try an explain the difference between a deer and a bear tonight. (whens the last time anyone seen 20 to a hundred bear eating in a field?)
What I will say is, there is about 14 to18" of snow on the ground here, and if it was still legal to feed them, I would have 20 to 40 deer getting a free meal here every evening less than 40 yards from my back door.
I'm not even going to try an explain the difference between a deer and a bear tonight. (whens the last time anyone seen 20 to a hundred bear eating in a field?)
What I will say is, there is about 14 to18" of snow on the ground here, and if it was still legal to feed them, I would have 20 to 40 deer getting a free meal here every evening less than 40 yards from my back door.
12-09-2008, 02:00 PM
#157
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Stafford, VA
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RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
Over an extended period of time yes. Baiting a is a quick fix for harvesting a deer. Year round baiting is one of the worst things you can do in regards to your deer herd because it increases disease transimission, deer are feeding in their own defecation and urine, it usually negatively affects their digestive system (their have been dead deer found that have a full stomach of corn that starved to death. Why? Because they were conditioned to a certain food source that was not natural) and it detrimental to your habitiat as well. Some forms of deer browse, that are able withstand heavy browsing, rely on browse for regeneration and growth and if they do not receive any browse it can take some species up to 100 years to 'fix themselves.'
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
Ok then?[&:] If you say so. Just find it comical with the number of deer killed over bait in my area, knowing these guys knowledge of deer...you're saying take away their corn pile and they have better odds?
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter
it absolutely hurts your chances
it absolutely hurts your chances
12-09-2008, 07:16 PM
#159
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: baiting
I'll discuss it as long as you don't stoop to personal insults the first time the only one of us who has any experience with it tells you something that positively true.....but doesn't fit into how you WANT to think about baiting.
You game?
You game?
