baiting
12-05-2008 | 12:51 PM
#51
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Live = Northern IL, Hunt = West Central IL
RE: baiting
The intention of the corn in this situation was to kill a deer.
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Please re-read my post.
The answer is no.
But the HUNTER did not BAIT.
The farmer planted the corn - the hunter took advantage.
It was pretty clearly stated.
12-05-2008 | 12:53 PM
#52
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
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From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
Micro food plots?[&:] I call them Kill Plots and I have used them with great success in MI. I use them to draw(bait
) does away from my sanctuarys. Then with a well place arrow I kill the doe and do not have to trample through my best hunting spots.30x30 near corn or acorns is where I set them up.
I will use any legal method to kill a whitetail where I hunt
12-05-2008 | 12:54 PM
#53
Site Buck Guru
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,922
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From: Racine, Wisconsin
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Disagree....unless your farmers leave their corn in the fields all season long and don't harvest it. If a person is supplemental feeding/baiting....and does so all year long....I'd say he's doing MORE to offer the deer a lasting nutritional value.
Do we really believe the hunter hunting a corn field edge is not intending to use the corn's presence in his situation to aid in the taking of a deer? You decide.
The bait pile will not offer the deer any lasting nutritional value after the season as the food plot would either.
The intention of the corn in this situation was to kill a deer.
Hunting a corn field edge in farm country is different than hunting a big woods oak flat........How?
There is a difference between hunting food sources and bait piles......right?
12-05-2008 | 12:55 PM
#54
Dominant Buck
Joined: Oct 2005
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RE: baiting
The farmer planted the corn - the hunter took advantage.
It was pretty clearly stated.
It was pretty clearly stated.
12-05-2008 | 12:55 PM
#55
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,590
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From: Hughesville, PA
RE: baiting
Burnie, simple question, answer honestly:
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]
12-05-2008 | 01:02 PM
#56
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 26,274
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
Burnie, simple question, answer honestly:
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]
Burnie, simple question, answer honestly:
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]
12-05-2008 | 01:03 PM
#57
Dominant Buck
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 21,043
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From:
RE: baiting
Hunting a corn field edge in farm country is different than hunting a big woods oak flat........How?
There is a difference between hunting food sources and bait piles......right?
There is a difference between hunting food sources and bait piles......right?
In your second question.....if one is indigenous and the other is artificial....yes...huge difference. Like you said earlier....if they're both artificial....the difference becomes the size of the pile.
12-05-2008 | 01:07 PM
#58
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 297
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From: Live = Northern IL, Hunt = West Central IL
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
So if my buddy kills a deer tomorrow.....over a bunch of acorns "I" put out.....he's simply "taking advantage" and not baiting?
The farmer planted the corn - the hunter took advantage.
It was pretty clearly stated.
It was pretty clearly stated.
Are you a farmer in the acorn business?
12-05-2008 | 01:08 PM
#59
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 26,274
Likes: 0
From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: Germ
Micro food plots?[&:] I call them Kill Plots and I have used them with great success in MI. I use them to draw(bait) does away from my sanctuarys. Then with a well place arrow I kill the doe and do not have to trample through my best hunting spots.
30x30 near corn or acorns is where I set them up.
I will use any legal method to kill a whitetail where I hunt
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
Micro food plots?[&:] I call them Kill Plots and I have used them with great success in MI. I use them to draw(bait
) does away from my sanctuarys. Then with a well place arrow I kill the doe and do not have to trample through my best hunting spots.30x30 near corn or acorns is where I set them up.
I will use any legal method to kill a whitetail where I hunt
12-05-2008 | 01:08 PM
#60
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
Likes: 0
From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
Honestly, I could care less. If hunter A enjoys what he isdoing, great. If hunter B enjoyswhat he is doing, Great. I respect that they are both enjoying what they do. I’m a bowyer and make bows all the time. I use my own custom bows and tend to push myself to my personal limits to get the enjoyment I seek. I don’t give a rats back side how anyone else does it, because I’m not in it for others or to force others to prescribe to my method of madness. Its this elitest, soap box mentality that puts more wedges in our dieing hunting population.
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
Burnie, simple question, answer honestly:
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]
Burnie, simple question, answer honestly:
Which hunter do you respect more?
Hunter A plants food plot in spring by clearing ground, tilling ground, and fertilizing. Continuous care weekly through summer and early fall. Kills buck.
Hunter B buys corn in bag two days before season, dumps on ground, comes back in two days. Kills buck.
This is a crude analogy I know,but I am curious. A or B? Anyone can play too.[8D]