Healthy herd myth
08-03-2007 | 09:04 PM
#131
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Germ
I have a feeling change is on the way for NY. PA's success is going to push you guys. We have the same argument here in MI. Change is coming for us, and I am happy to be part of it.
I have a feeling change is on the way for NY. PA's success is going to push you guys. We have the same argument here in MI. Change is coming for us, and I am happy to be part of it.
For someone who doesn't like decisions based on fear.............you don't mind peddling it
08-03-2007 | 09:06 PM
#132
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
Likes: 0
From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Healthy herd myth
My business partner was born and raised in Dearborn and hunted the UP many years............he disagrees. You're 0 for 1
08-03-2007 | 09:06 PM
#133
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Not if anyone reads the regional boards on many different sites and see's all the complaining going on.
NY already has certain are's that cater to QDM your into it go hunt there.
If I only have limited time to hunt and decide to shoot a four point what buisness should it be of yours? With thehuge amount of deer getting hit by cars in my area it won't make much of a difference.
PA's success is going to push you guys
NY already has certain are's that cater to QDM your into it go hunt there.
If I only have limited time to hunt and decide to shoot a four point what buisness should it be of yours? With thehuge amount of deer getting hit by cars in my area it won't make much of a difference.
I have hunted more then a few days in "QDM" zones............it sucked. Didn't even see a deer. The DEC keeps track of how many bucks come out of these zones and last year it was 1.........on a shotgun drive. Whoopity freakin' do..........yea I'm in a real hurry to make the whole state like that
08-03-2007 | 09:07 PM
#134
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19,137
Likes: 0
RE: Healthy herd myth
I agree with you people should shoot what they want 100%, but big bucks is big money so lets be honest and try to get a system works for eveyone.
08-03-2007 | 09:07 PM
#135
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
Likes: 0
From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: atlasman
For someone who doesn't like decisions based on fear.............you don't mind peddling it
ORIGINAL: Germ
I have a feeling change is on the way for NY. PA's success is going to push you guys. We have the same argument here in MI. Change is coming for us, and I am happy to be part of it.
I have a feeling change is on the way for NY. PA's success is going to push you guys. We have the same argument here in MI. Change is coming for us, and I am happy to be part of it.
For someone who doesn't like decisions based on fear.............you don't mind peddling it
08-03-2007 | 09:09 PM
#136
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Kip P. Adams
Wildlife Biologist &
Regional Director, QDMA
No bias there right?
Kip P. Adams
Wildlife Biologist &
Regional Director, QDMA
No bias there right?
Of course not.................it MUST be true if Kip said it
I love how he says 75-100 is "by far" more interest then 50-75 in his attendence figures
08-03-2007 | 09:11 PM
#137
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
Likes: 0
From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Yea then we can have the problems they do in many of the big buck states, outfitters buying up land and making it hard for an average guy to finda spot to hunt. We need hunting to become the sport ot the rich right?
I agree with you people should shoot what they want 100%, but big bucks is big money so lets be honest and try to get a system works for eveyone.
08-03-2007 | 09:11 PM
#138
Boone & Crockett
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,682
Likes: 0
From: Michigan/Ohio
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: atlasman
I have hunted more then a few days in "QDM" zones............it sucked. Didn't even see a deer. The DEC keeps track of how many bucks come out of these zones and last year it was 1.........on a shotgun drive. Whoopity freakin' do..........yea I'm in a real hurry to make the whole state like that
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Not if anyone reads the regional boards on many different sites and see's all the complaining going on.
NY already has certain are's that cater to QDM your into it go hunt there.
If I only have limited time to hunt and decide to shoot a four point what buisness should it be of yours? With thehuge amount of deer getting hit by cars in my area it won't make much of a difference.
PA's success is going to push you guys
NY already has certain are's that cater to QDM your into it go hunt there.
If I only have limited time to hunt and decide to shoot a four point what buisness should it be of yours? With thehuge amount of deer getting hit by cars in my area it won't make much of a difference.
I have hunted more then a few days in "QDM" zones............it sucked. Didn't even see a deer. The DEC keeps track of how many bucks come out of these zones and last year it was 1.........on a shotgun drive. Whoopity freakin' do..........yea I'm in a real hurry to make the whole state like that
08-03-2007 | 09:12 PM
#139
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
It's NY man you don't think we know that.
I've hunted this state for 30 years seen it go from 5 guys on a "party permit" (doe permit) to being able to take up to what is it now 7 deer?
Plenty of really nice bucks get killed around here every year. Don't see a need to mandate AR's.
So you guy can see not everyone thinks the same in NY
I've hunted this state for 30 years seen it go from 5 guys on a "party permit" (doe permit) to being able to take up to what is it now 7 deer?
Plenty of really nice bucks get killed around here every year. Don't see a need to mandate AR's.
The old days of arm bands and party permits..............couldn't even shoot a doe and saw plenty of them.........now I have enough tags to make a book and don't see half as many deer.
Yup............those biologists sure know what they are doin'
08-03-2007 | 09:15 PM
#140
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 0
From: NY
RE: Healthy herd myth
ORIGINAL: Germ
I see and shoot plenty of them So I do not get your point, matter of fact your odds in NY are better than mine in MI
I see and shoot plenty of them
So I do not get your point, matter of fact your odds in NY are better than mine in MI
So is it possible that there already are plenty of big mature bucks out there and the herd is way healthier then we know...............because we just don't see them remember??