ORIGINAL: atlasman


You knew............and you still said it.

I wouldn't want a quote like that attached to my name.

So you don't care about the rights of other hunters............that's great. We have some real special quotes coming out of this thread.

Saying that finding them will be easier but killing will not be is ludicrous.

Read that back to yourself and tell me it doesn't sound stupid. So you don't care about your right to free speech or have a weapon or practice religion either?? Your way of thinking is scarey...........assuming you are thinking at all of course.

So you are asking to just be left alone to hunt the way YOU choose???

Sounds familiar

I mean this sincerely............there is NO WAY I will EVER respect an opinion that is justified by comparisons to spoiled millionaire athletes and followed up by statements showing a blatant disregard for other hunter's rights and freedom in general.

I respect your right to express that opinion but that is as close as you will ever get.

Some of the opinions expressed by "fellow" hunters in the last day or so on this board have really dampened my spirits about where we stand right now.............and what the not too distant future holds.

ORIGINAL: Germ

No Atlas, If antlers never existed would it even matter? I never looked at it that way.

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Never said that. Don't put meaning behind what I say that isn't there. Your perception of what is "your right" is just that your perception. Your rights are to hunt within the confines of the law. If that law changes, then so do your rights.

A: How would you know how difficult it is since you only shoot small bucks?

B: I've found a lot of areas that have big bucks that I can't hunt because it is posted land and areas that I can hunt those big deer are extremely reclusive during the season. Just seeing them after the opener is difficult. Yes, they are there now, but they are by no means easy to hunt.

Don't compare hunting rights to Constitutional rights. That is ridiculous. Also, see above. Your rights as a hunter are to hunt within the confines of the law, as are mine.

Also, I am thinking, I'm just not thinking like you. So, in your view anyone that doesn't think like you is stupid or inferior. Nice.[&o]

Nope, I just refuse to justify my hunting preference to you and people who think like you.

Again, you are completely missing the point. I do not have disregard for other hunter's rights.

If the state will make laws that are in my favor then of course I am for it.

It does not infringe on anyone's rights when that happens.

You can still hunt the same herd

When it comes down to it, ARs are similar to bag limit changes. Nobody says their rights are being infringed upon then.

The comparison to athletes you have completely taken out of context to furthe your agenda to discredit my view (sound familiar). I'm not even going to explain it, because it's a fuitile effort.

So, you only respect the opinions of others if they agree with your views?

Ah, the old doom and gloom sentiment. I don't know about other states, but in PA the number of hunters is decreasing, but the number of bowhunters has been increasing. If you are talking about the future of bowhunting it looks pretty secure.

ORIGINAL: atlasman

So you wouldn't care then if the laws changed to ban weapons, free speech, and religion then I guess.



Because killing small bucks is easier if there are more of them.........killing ANYTHING is easier if the populations are higher. Pretty simple concept. It has been proven time and again on this very board that the same hunter can make no changes to his routine and still see and kill more older bucks simply by not shooting them for a couple years and just waiting until they are "old enough"..........a definition that varies depending on the shooter.



Nobody said they would be "easy" to hunt..........but you did say that having more of them around would not make hunting them easier and that is absurd...........it is the entire foundation of TDM/QDM for cripes sake.



Keep thinking that way and you will be telling stories when you are older about the good old days when you used to be able to hunt. You need to get your head out of the sand..........or wherever else it is stuck.




I never called you either.............and this statement is even more rediculous considering you were just whining a few lines up (and below) about others assigning meaning to your words


Right back atcha Leave me alone and mind your own business and I will return the favor.


Aren't you the SAME guy who said earlier that if another hunter feels like his rights are being infringed upon then BOO HOO. You are starting to talk in circles now.



Exactly...........and you don't care about all the other hunters because you will get your way (a way you could obtain WITHOUT forcing others to help you but are not willing/able to do).

The epitome of selfishness............no wonder you idolize spoiled athletes.


It most certainly does.


No I can't............a large portion of them will now be off limits because because a bunch of grown men with fragile egos want help proving how much of a man they are.



Bag limits are to protect the ANIMALS from getting knocked too low and endangering the populations ability to bounce back. AR's are to protect the HUNTER with the Playstation, Drive Thru, Instant gratification, I want more, Selfish attitude from being bored in the woods............god forbid there aren't enough slammers out there to keep the freakin ADHD crowd interested.

And if you think no one complains when bag limits (tags) change then you are SERIOUSLY clueless.



There is no way to explain that way of thinking........it is what it is and trust me.............I am not the only one who said WOW when he read that



I gave you my reasons for not respecting your opinions...........and they had nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing. Nice try though.




Man...........you just don't get it

ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Atlas, as far as posters go on this forum I like you.

I've read all of your replies to what I've said and come to the conclusion that you will read whatever you want into what I say no matter how I say it.

Good luck this fall.