buckwild41

There is something troubling me with some of the threads/postings over the last several weeks. It would appear there are quite a number of folks posting on this site that measure the quality of the hunt by the number of deer they kill. I would hope that most hunters were beyond the kill part of the hunt and measure their success by the whole experience. The kill is actually the end, and is typically one of the easier parts of the hunt. Locating the animal and fooling them into coming into range is by far the most challenging part. Sticking them with an arrow or shooting them is not that big of a deal. You can practice this portion of the hunt and most folks become rather proficent at it in little to no time. I guess my point is to just ask those hunters who enjoy the kill more than the hunt to be careful with that position. You are intitled and it is your right to enjoy this sport in the manner that best serves you. However, there are a lot of people out there who would love nothing more than to do away with this tradition. They will use untrue stories of over killing and wasted game to further their cause. I ask you only to proceed with caution, there are a lot of eyes watching us.

BOWFANATIC

I agree with your analogy of a successfull hunt to a point. Just being able to go out and hunt and enjoy the outdoors and meke memories is a success itself. Success is defined by accomplishing your goals and for most everyone here , our goal is to harvest a deer or whatever game animal one chooses to hunt.

As for members who have the benefit of tagging several animals per year and choose to share their success stories here. Why not? This is a hunting site! If their proud of every animal they harvest and want to share it with us then kudos to them. I'm interested in reading all the stories and seeing all the pics.
As for the anti's coming to this website? Thats a sore spot on my rearend! AGAIN , This is a hunting forum! We have the right to talk hunting , share hunting stories , share hunting pics and anything associated with hunting. If our hunting stories or pics offend anyone thats too bad! Everyone here would be offended if they spent some time on a PETA forum. As for them using anything that they read here against us<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> I suggest everyone here spend a little time in their forums , you'd be shocked at how much they talk about illegal activities to use against hunters. So yes , they could take a story from here about how John Doe wounded three deer in one year and show it to Judge Judy<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> And I'll take a story from their forums on how Jane Doe planted razor wire in the woods to intentionally cause physical harm to a hunter<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> Who do you think Judge Judy will throw out of her courtroom?

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buckwild41

Fanatic there's no doubt this is a hunting site. People who visit here aren't the ones I was referring to possibly using the &quot;John Doe&quot; story against us. Rest assured this board is not the only place folks brag about their kill. I was merely expressing a thought regarding those folks who feel shooting a button or flat head just to run their numbers up may be missing the true meaning of hunting. Its not for me to say, I only post this idea to have folks think outside the BOX occasionally. Posting the story isn't the point. It is the harvesting of animals just for the sake of bragging about numbers. If the hunter is truly proud of that yearling they just shot, then congrads. But when a memember post about their 4th, 5th, or 6th kill this season and you find out it was a button or a 50# doe. Well I guess they just have a different view or respect for the animal. Enough on my view, it is only of importance in my small corner of the woods. Good Luck Fanatic, and thanks for your thoughs.
P.S. Many of us hunt in areas the would allow for crazy high harvest numbers if we elected to make that our goal.

Edited by - buckwild41 on 10/17/2002 23:45:59

Edited by - buckwild41 on 10/17/2002 23:47:02

BT

What is your stance on meat huters? how about hunters that donate a bunch of deer to homeless shelters or hunters feeding the hungrey? or hunters huntig for population cntroal? some of the people with high # do hunt for theas very reasions. how doe theas hunters fit in to ethics? i for istace have been after our state to add more doe days. where i can increas my so called #. i started bow huntig for that very reasion and bp huntig to. now before i get jummped on. here are my reasios &quot;35+&quot; to 1 buck to doe raito. &quot;per the state biolgest&quot; and for crop dammage. i could just go and get a crop dammage permit. &quot;and shot them any time&quot; but i dicided to try to do it during huntig seasion insted. i thik it is more ethical &quot;for me&quot; to do the killig in huting seasion insted of cd. --------------------------now that being said i do see your point but before ethics can be brought in on # of killed deer you need to look at other possible reasions insted of just a high kill #
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

BOWFANATIC

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I was merely expressing a thought regarding those folks who feel shooting a button or flat head just to run their numbers up may be missing the true meaning of hunting. Its not for me to say, I only post this idea to have folks think outside the BOX occasionally. Posting the story isn't the point. It is the harvesting of animals just for the sake of bragging about numbers. If the hunter is truly proud of that yearling they just shot, then congrads. But when a memember post about their 4th, 5th, or 6th kill this season and you find out it was a button or a 50# doe. Well I guess they just have a different view or respect for the animal. Enough on my view, it is only of importance in my small corner of the woods. Good Luck Fanatic, and thanks for your thoughs.
P.S. Many of us hunt in areas the would allow for crazy high harvest numbers if we elected to make that our goal.

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Gotcha! I missed the meaning behind that part of your thread. I agree!
I thought your entire thread was aimed at walking on egg shells (so to speak) with what we say regarding hunting that the anti's might use against us. That type of scensorship really burns me!
Good luck to you also!


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Lilhunter

well put Buck.

I recent had the PRIVILAGE to spend some time with the founder of the P & Y Club, Glenn St Charles. He put it very nicely. Its about the need to kill. That one sentence set it all up into how hunting has taken a turn. I am no beginner but talking to a man of 90 years old who has been doing it his hole life has a way of humbling you, thats if you are soaking the info and not &quot;in one ear and out the other&quot;. I am fortunate to be able to really punch some tags if I wanted to, to the tune of 5 critters a day plus other game on top of it, all big game of course so its not including the many grouse, waterfowl, and furbears that happen to come along. I can honestly say I found a parnter who is in for the hunt, its a shame he lives 360 miles away cuz man did we have fun!

Success isnt defined in punched tags, its the daily experiences that last a life time.



Edited by - Lilhunter on 10/18/2002 02:02:43

Tazman

buckwild I live in Va. also, Fredericksburg to be exact, I hunt for the hunt and view every day in the field, kill or no kill as a successful hunt. I will tell you honestly though, that with the exception of fawns I will take every doe I can, the population in my area is exploding and if we do not start getting them thinned out we are going to wind up with a very sick herd. I am hoping I can fill my freezer this year and give some to charity to boot. I take pride in every deer I kill, but to me as I already said a kill does not equal a successful hunt, the hunt does.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

Sooner_Hunter

Hey BF I think you are on the right track.

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