Hunting ethics II
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From: Southeast Central Illinois USA
Been putting off posting this, but after reading T-roys' topic I had too. I have been told about 6 fellows in my community who each have shot and killed 20 deer each.......one has killed 28 I am told. A reputable source let me in on this......my local pro shop owner. Its not the amount of deer they have killed that is a problem. The problem is..... they have checked in all the deer as required, but some(don't know how many) of the deer have been thrown in the ditch or the side of a road!! Why? They didn't need that many deer and had nobody to give it too or wanted it. As was explained to me, its for bragging rights among the group and to see who can collect the most pins upon checking in of their deer. The DNR has been notified but nothing can be done. They are legally killing the deer, but illegally disposing of them. Only thing the DNR can do is catch them in the act. The not-so-funny thing is...at least one of them is a cop.......I know the guy but not well. Two others have a towing company and are contracted out by the city and sheriff's office when they need a vehicle towed. I know these two guys not well either, but would not put it past them. Maybe a letter to the local newspaper might at least put heat on them, problem is you have to sign your name to any letter to the editor to be printed. I will give this careful thought.[
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By the way....the pro shop owner told them he would not care to see them in his shop anymore.
]By the way....the pro shop owner told them he would not care to see them in his shop anymore.
#2
Coug.
Be very careful on what you write to put in print.
That being said all I can say they are on the same level as slob hunters.
Dont they have a hunters feeding the hungry program there where they could donate the extra deer?
Other than that why take more than you can use even if it is legal to do so.
Be very careful on what you write to put in print.
That being said all I can say they are on the same level as slob hunters.
Dont they have a hunters feeding the hungry program there where they could donate the extra deer?
Other than that why take more than you can use even if it is legal to do so.
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[X(] These are the maggots that keep the PETA pot boiling. I'd think real careful about notifying the local fish wrapper. Most of them are run by lib publishers and before you know it the locals would be buzzing about all hunters and not the offending maggots.[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Tahlequah, Oklahoma
Thats sad, I too would be careful about what i wrote to the paper. Perhaps you could use a difrent name? It is unethical to waste the deer meat even if you are killing the deer legaly.
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Dominant Buck
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From: Blossvale, New York
The only thing I have to say is watch what you accuse people of in the paper. It can open a can of worms and backfire. Secondly, as far as you REALLY know this is ALL hear-say at this point. Have you seen these dozens of discarded deer laying in the ditch. Have you seen them dumping deer or hides or what. You're stirring up a can of worms with NO proof. More often than not these stories stem from pure jealousy against the successful. I find it hard to believe that people will shoot, tag, dress, drag, check in a deer so they can throw it in a ditch. If it did happen it's probably one and now you're trying to accuse 6 people. My hunting partner and I shoot a lot of deer with the bow(well .... He does, I pick and choose more) They all get consumed in one way or another, whether we eat them, give them to friends or donate to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. Posting of such stories and "HEARSAY" does nothing to help hunting or the hunter image and you're slandering 6 people without proof. If I were them I'd be looking to punch a nose.
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From: Georgia
I think it's unlikely that people are leaving their deer in a ditch. But! You never know about people sometimes these days. The thought of it is prety sick to me. However, Cougar, I would tread very very lightly. Your actions on this will deffinately have a swift reaction and it may not be pretty. Check your sources again and again. Also, if you can find hard core, undesputable proof before doing anything.
Although what Davidmil is saying sounds like he is posting a defence. I would have to agree with him. The story of what these people are doing with their deer is just that....a story unless you have proof. One problem I see is that if you are sure of what they are doing then the right thing to do is not put it in the paper but make sure the authorities are on it in some way. If you do put it in the paper like that it would be slander which you could be sued for.
I hate that you are in this position. But, from what I've read in this and other posts your a very responsible person and will take a lot of thought before acting. Sorry your in this position.
Although what Davidmil is saying sounds like he is posting a defence. I would have to agree with him. The story of what these people are doing with their deer is just that....a story unless you have proof. One problem I see is that if you are sure of what they are doing then the right thing to do is not put it in the paper but make sure the authorities are on it in some way. If you do put it in the paper like that it would be slander which you could be sued for.
I hate that you are in this position. But, from what I've read in this and other posts your a very responsible person and will take a lot of thought before acting. Sorry your in this position.

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Cougar I will agree with David, right now all you have is rumor to go by, if you do have concrete proof they are doing this don't take it to the paper. If a police officer is involved you may want to take the proof to the police chief or provide it to the Game Warden.


