Apex And Maxiballs
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Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2008
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The mould is a 459-405-HB made be LEE. I don't know why but this bullet is supposed to weigh 405 gr with a hardalloy. Mine weighs about 385 with pure lead. This mouldthrows light but I love it!
The lead is from Rotometal, http://www.rotometals.com/
I got the 50 pounds for 129.00 but when I got it, it was cheeper. Prices are going up. I got 150 pounds. I put 250 grains of chilled lead shot in per 5 pounds of pure lead. It helps the lead to fill the mould better and it bumps the hardness just a tad, but they are still butter soft.
After I pour the bullets I size them with a Lee sizer. I go to .454, then to .451 and then I wrap them with 9 pound 25% cotton paper. Then I size them back to .454, and then to .451
As you can see they fit snug enough I don't thik they will come off the charge.
I would not go with wheel weight. For one thing they are HARD to get down even sized .451 I have a bunch thet are hard and they SUCK!
The pure lead ones go down good and you don't have to clean between each shot. With the hard ones I had to clean between shots just to get a good group. I don't want to sound like I aoldfartbut I know you won't like them.
I have written several posts on other sites about the paper patched bullet. Most guys don't believe me about the groups I get.
You should post a seperate one here, about how they did.
If you have questions about wrapping or making the bullets feel free to ask. Here is a good picture of the difference they make in my rifle. Ron

The lead is from Rotometal, http://www.rotometals.com/
I got the 50 pounds for 129.00 but when I got it, it was cheeper. Prices are going up. I got 150 pounds. I put 250 grains of chilled lead shot in per 5 pounds of pure lead. It helps the lead to fill the mould better and it bumps the hardness just a tad, but they are still butter soft.
After I pour the bullets I size them with a Lee sizer. I go to .454, then to .451 and then I wrap them with 9 pound 25% cotton paper. Then I size them back to .454, and then to .451
As you can see they fit snug enough I don't thik they will come off the charge.
I would not go with wheel weight. For one thing they are HARD to get down even sized .451 I have a bunch thet are hard and they SUCK!
The pure lead ones go down good and you don't have to clean between each shot. With the hard ones I had to clean between shots just to get a good group. I don't want to sound like I aoldfartbut I know you won't like them.
I have written several posts on other sites about the paper patched bullet. Most guys don't believe me about the groups I get.
You should post a seperate one here, about how they did.
If you have questions about wrapping or making the bullets feel free to ask. Here is a good picture of the difference they make in my rifle. Ron

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After shooting those today, i believe ya!
They shoot excellent. I lubed the paper just like you said, just a little crisco at the base and all around the sides to help it a bit.
I have 5 of them left so tomorrow i am going to be very careful and try to get the best group i can out of them. Should be close to 1" low @ 100 yards. I did recover 2 of them and they mushroomed nicely.
I'll be able to post pics tomorrow night when i have my camera back. I saved a few targets.

They shoot excellent. I lubed the paper just like you said, just a little crisco at the base and all around the sides to help it a bit.
I have 5 of them left so tomorrow i am going to be very careful and try to get the best group i can out of them. Should be close to 1" low @ 100 yards. I did recover 2 of them and they mushroomed nicely.
I'll be able to post pics tomorrow night when i have my camera back. I saved a few targets.
#13
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2008
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I have never seen one recovered other than a hard one I shot into a frozen pile of dirt, please post a picture. Lee has other a couple of other moulds I would like to try. There are two others I would like to try one from Lyman, a 43 Mauser mould, that is .446 and a RCBS mould that is .446, either of these would be .454 after wrapping them. If a guy did it that way you would only have to wrap and then size them once. Ron




