I have never seen one recovered other than a hard one I shot into a frozen pile of dirt, please post a picture. Lee has other a couple of other moulds I would like to try. There are two others I would like to try one from Lyman, a 43 Mauser mould, that is .446 and a RCBS mould that is .446, either of these would be .454 after wrapping them. If a guy did it that way you would only have to wrap and then size them once. Ron