Knight Disc Rifles
#31
Nontypical Buck
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It does take a few more minutes to remove and clean the bolt but after doing a few times its no big deal....My brother bought a Knight Disc with a 26 inch barrel the year before the Omega came out....He is the type to buy newer and bigger every few years...That might be my next "new" muzzleloader....Frankly I think Knight was crazy to quit making the original disc rifles....
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Knight was smart... not crazy!Very few folkswant to spend around $400 on a ML bolt-action anymore. The bolt-craze ended the very dayeach ML manufacturer came outwith their own versions of break-actions.It also costscompaniesmore to produce a bolt-action vs a break action. Plus.... the manufacturer gets more complaints - resulting in more tech servicewith bolts because of their moving parts that increase blowby &gather powder & primer foulings.
In reality.... it was a no-brainer to either stop selling them (or) curtail assembly time significantly. I don't believe the bolt will go away for an eternity with the higher quality MLmanufacturers.... but their day as being a pioneer of this business is l-o-n-g gone.
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It does take a few more minutes to remove and clean the bolt but after doing a few times its no big deal....My brother bought a Knight Disc with a 26 inch barrel the year before the Omega came out....He is the type to buy newer and bigger every few years...That might be my next "new" muzzleloader....Frankly I think Knight was crazy to quit making the original disc rifles....
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Knight was smart... not crazy!Very few folkswant to spend around $400 on a ML bolt-action anymore. The bolt-craze ended the very dayeach ML manufacturer came outwith their own versions of break-actions.It also costscompaniesmore to produce a bolt-action vs a break action. Plus.... the manufacturer gets more complaints - resulting in more tech servicewith bolts because of their moving parts that increase blowby &gather powder & primer foulings.
In reality.... it was a no-brainer to either stop selling them (or) curtail assembly time significantly. I don't believe the bolt will go away for an eternity with the higher quality MLmanufacturers.... but their day as being a pioneer of this business is l-o-n-g gone.
#32
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I've got the Disc Extreme which is the successor to the Disc Rifle. I'd give the Winchester Platinum tips a try. My Extreme shoots them very well at 100 ydswith 100 gr of FFG Triple Seven. Thats the target on the left. 2 Groups at 100 yds (sight adjustment). Other targets were load development.
#33
Giant Nontypical
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Guess thats why they make chocolate and vanilla...Having an adjustable trigger, secondary screw safety and the ease of dropping in a 209 primer within a disc outweigh the faster cleaning of a break action...With my Knight Disc I have no blowback...
I think Knight also shot themselves in the foot when they came out with the Vision...and the Disc Extremes...With the break open design they should have left the discs out...Guess they think we all hunt in a monsoon...
I think Knight also shot themselves in the foot when they came out with the Vision...and the Disc Extremes...With the break open design they should have left the discs out...Guess they think we all hunt in a monsoon...
#34
ORIGINAL: nchawkeye
Its a disc with a percussion nipple on it...I have one that came with my rifle...I've always used the 209s...Why would you want to go back to caps???
Its a disc with a percussion nipple on it...I have one that came with my rifle...I've always used the 209s...Why would you want to go back to caps???
#35
Wolfhound.. that's some nice shooting. Looks like you have a great rifle there. I never shot the Winchester Platinum Tips but I have readsome posts on them. Maybe when I go on line for my next shopping extravaganza I will have to see if they carry some of them. I like trying new projectiles... Its the only way to learn the rifle and what it will do..
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Giant Nontypical
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One of my buddies has a Wolverine and the other an American Knight...I hate trying to get the percussion caps on the nipple...with the 209s in a disc you just open the bolt, flip the used disc and primer out, reach in your pocket and drop in a new one and close the bolt...those caps are a pain to deal with...Once you get your discs in and try them you might feel the same...heck...I always preferred shooting a flintlock...would rather do that than mess with those caps...I don't think I ever bought a tin of caps...went straight from flinters to 209s....LOL
PS...Do you have a crony to check the velocity...You have me thinking about finding a new...to me...Knight Disc with a longer barrel...would just really like to know about how much more velocity I'd be getting....I'm currently shooting 90grs of Pyrodex RS...behind a 250gr SST...probably not getting but about 1550-1600fps...I'm guessing with a 26 inch barrel and 100 grs I might get 1800???
PS...Do you have a crony to check the velocity...You have me thinking about finding a new...to me...Knight Disc with a longer barrel...would just really like to know about how much more velocity I'd be getting....I'm currently shooting 90grs of Pyrodex RS...behind a 250gr SST...probably not getting but about 1550-1600fps...I'm guessing with a 26 inch barrel and 100 grs I might get 1800???
#37
Nope I do not own one of them fancy speed machines.. I thought about getting one, but then I really wonder whether I would use it or not. Until then I just shoot for the best possible accuracy and let the bullet do the rest.
#38
Nontypical Buck
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Cayugad, you could easily learn to hate that secondary safety. Experience I had with them was they tend to spin to an on-safe position as you carry them hunting. Replaced the end of mine with a lock-nut, actually still looked pretty good and eliminated the possibility of a no-ignition shot due that safety.
#39
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ORIGINAL: cayugad
I never shot the Winchester Platinum Tips but I have readsome posts on them. Maybe when I go on line for my next shopping extravaganza I will have to see if they carry some of them. I like trying new projectiles... Its the only way to learn the rifle and what it will do..
I never shot the Winchester Platinum Tips but I have readsome posts on them. Maybe when I go on line for my next shopping extravaganza I will have to see if they carry some of them. I like trying new projectiles... Its the only way to learn the rifle and what it will do..
#40
ORIGINAL: Underclocked
Cayugad, you could easily learn to hate that secondary safety. Experience I had with them was they tend to spin to an on-safe position as you carry them hunting. Replaced the end of mine with a lock-nut, actually still looked pretty good and eliminated the possibility of a no-ignition shot due that safety.
Cayugad, you could easily learn to hate that secondary safety. Experience I had with them was they tend to spin to an on-safe position as you carry them hunting. Replaced the end of mine with a lock-nut, actually still looked pretty good and eliminated the possibility of a no-ignition shot due that safety.
Something to consider... thanks.


