ROFLMAO, soarkrebel I thought you would get a kick out of that!!! Dont fret, us 'necks have our own and these two clowns are prime examples. There are dirty law enforcement officers EVERYWHERE. But by and large the vast majority or straight, honest, decent law abiding folks with families and lives to live just like us.

Men and women don't get into law enforcement for the riches, thats obvious. Many have a strong urge to truly "serve and protect". And simply because they carry a gun and wear a badge, they put their lives on the line each and everyday for their meager pay. So cut 'em some slack.

Obviously these two jerkwaters are not of the norm. I don't think they were fired for being dangerous or a liability too the department they served. They had to be fired for their obvious lack of gray matter between their ears! I don't anymore think those two clowns represent the vast majority of law enforcement anymore than I think Ted Kennedy represents the majority of politicians!!! As is the case with human nature, there ALWAYS will be bad examples. Here, there and everywhere.

I have friends and family that are in law enforcement and much more of them are "good people" than not. To say that ALL cops who respond to B&E loot the joint is just plain ignorant and ludicrous. Neither do most carry around "throw downs", thats the most absurd thing I have ever heard of. Cops get hostile in hostile environments, not just because they are on the job. SURE they are edgy when dealing with inner-city thugs and while patroling the projects, while their seniors get the easy detail in the calm suburbs. Thats life and the statistics will SOLIDLY support what I just stated. It's just common sense for cops to be confrontational when pulling ove a group of 17 year old gang members in a hooptie than when they pull me over for speeding through the neighborhood. In my case they are simply doing their job, in the other case they could possibly be about to die simply because, "they were doing their job"!!!

I'll tell you another thing, I for one don't mind cops giving known criminals a hard time, whackin em on the head with a stick, or planting a little evidence that might make conviction a little bit easier and their sentences a little longer this time! I for one have ALWAYS thought (and damn well know for that matter) that honest, free going citizens have NOTHING to fear from law enforcement. If they (cops) are hard on your or harassing you then you probably deserve it. They don't just walk up too every poke they pull over for speeding and instantly turn it into a fleeing felon situation. If you are a decent citizen then you don't have squat to worry about, they are just doing their job. Likewise if they respond too your calls in the middle of the night, they know by radio and your neighborhood whether or not they should "get rough" with you. They simply know where the trouble is, and more importantly, who most of the troublemakers are.

Keep ya nose clean and you won't have anything but a friend in uniform!
RA

Spoken like a true spoonfed yuppie. Pull your head out of your hole and wash your face.
Most Cops don't get into law enforcement to serve and protect in my opinion. Most all the cops that I know got into law enforcement for one of two reasons: A- Because it is good money and great benefits and you don't have to do anything to get it, or B- Because they are power hungry and want to pick on people and "show em whose boss".
That crap about putting their life on the line is crap. Statistics prove that. Of the 100 most dangerous Jobs, police work is ranked in the 90's somewhere. The top three most dangerous jobs in the U.S. are Commercial fisherman, convenience store/ gas station clerk, and taxi cab driver.
Get your facts straight.
Next time you buy your gas why don't you thank him intead of waving at the pig in the cruiser, the clerk has a hundred times better chance of getting gunned down tonight than officer Donothing.

Moose you are sorely Misinformed, i did not get into this proffession to stop women and get thier addresses or to be able to go down beers or to beat people up with out leaving a mark. If you were involved in a Department like that and you didn't do anything to stop it then you were just as gulty as they were. You put the uniform on for the wrong reason. As far as you calling us pigs you need to get a grip and another term. I put my uniform on everyday to protect the people in my town. I have an exemplary record and have gone above and beyond quite a fews times to protect the citizens. As far as this post goes with how you are slamming all police officers I think you need to chill out. I don't know what you do for a living now but if you respect criminals more than Police then it sounds as if the shoe fits. What those poachers did was against the law and they should be arrested. Just like many discussion on here it doesn't matter what they did for a job they could have been a computer tech and did the same thing, there are a few bad apples in every proffession.

Pat....If you are a good cop like you say than hats off to you. If you have been in the job for a while than you know what I'm saying is not crap....you have seen it too. And as far as me not doing anything about it where I worked, well, quite honestly, I didn't know to the extent and specificaly what was going on. I just knew that something stunk and I didn't wanna be there so I quit....Thank God! If I had known, I would have dropped a dime on those rat bast#rds in a heartbeat. Hell, I would have helped I.A. by jumping the fence in less time than it took to write this post.

Yeah you ruffled my feathers with the pick on arkansas thing. i believe your from tenn. so i was going to make some hick statement but i didnt.

I have found that most that slam the law enforcement profession usually have had run in's with it. they still have a bad taste in thier mouths. [:'(]
I get it all the time and i have been out for several years. I'm trying to figure out what moose is talking about with the statement?
I left for $25,000 more a year and insurance that was half what i paid through the city.AND i work less!

Yep i miss it sometimes not for the power cause that gets old after a while but for the close friendships and excitement.
Out of 5+ years and MANY arrests i can look in the mirror .

Anyway easy on those arkansas statements you ain't that far away!

Exactly what did you do at this police dept?? Janitor?

I guess when i went into a smoke filled house and pulled a passed out man outside i didnt risk my life?? He thought i did ,my chief thought i did, the community thought i did. they made a big deal out of it and wanted pictures for the paper and yada yada......... i just wanted to go the deer camp!!!!!

I guess when i stopped a stolen car from little rock with three guys with guns i wasn't risking my life? one of them later made the statement i would have been dead if only one of the guns had been loaded! good for me they were IDIOTS! huh?

And hey the guy that had those guns stolen was sure appreciative of the police at least thats what it says in the letter he wrote me.

Oh and when i found almost $1000 in cash on a sidewalk i should have kept it. i mean i was in with the corrupt pigs. nope i turned it in. hoping maybe someone would claim it that really needed it.
Noone did so it went toward police equipment per a judge.

i could go on about me and MANY others .

And if YOU were a police officer you would have known and read MANY notices per NCIC about officers that had been shot ,in car wrecks........

many come over the net a day. Most officers are killed in car wrecks trying to get somewhere fast and alot of times it's citizens ignorance of what to do that causes them.

This may be your problem you watch to many movies and dream you are or have been in situations that resemble those scenerios.


If only it had really been like miami vice

Soar....Your my hero, a true knight in shining armor. If your done patting yourself on the back read further.
I don't know where you were pigging, but the oinkers here average anywhere from $60 to $80k a year after ot and details with many making well over 100k.
And the reason why so many cops crash en route is because of their holier than thou attitudes.....flying to calls expecting and thinking that everyone sees them, when in fact they don't. You are supposed to respond to calls in a prudent and safe manner, so what does that tell ya?
There are alot of cops responding to calls in an unsafe and reckless manner.
As far as what I did at the department, what do you think I did fool? I dressed in my blues and drove around all day, and unlike you, found VERY few occasions to make arrests. And I definately can look in the mirror. You see, I was Officer good guy and vowed when I took the job NOT to bother folks unless they had done something SERIOUSLY wrong. Maybe that's why I never did fit in......................

Hey i don't want to be YOUR knight in shining armor!

And yes i have heard of dept's paying that much but you have look at the cost of living in the area. in the northeast that is not that much money.
Thats why i stay in arkansas . i could go anywhere i wanted and make good money keeping aircraft flying especially corporate jets . I like the lower cost of living here and no i don't want anybody else taking advantage of it.

You were what i referred to as a unmotivated officer(if you were one). a good officer can usually find arrests. now if you work in a gated retirement community that would make it much harder of course.
I tell you what i am not going to go into the workings of a real police officer this thread isnt really about that.
I don't think you are being completely honest about your experiences with the police and how you really developed these feelings. Honestly i don't really care.
But i know for a fact that the MANY fine people i know that wear the uniform and live the life do it with heart. it is more than just a job it's a lifestyle. now some can't live up to the standard and they get busted just like these two deputys. BUT as i have stated before even they learned something ..........they were honest and lived up to thier mistakes!

If you were a "pig" you would know that is MUCH more than the average "good " citizen does !

I call it being selective. I was very hesitant to interfere with someones life, unless they absolutely deserved it.

A good officer can find arrests according to you. Exactly my point. Cops look for trouble. The real trouble comes to you. You don't have to go looking for it.

1. Yes - When you say 10 out of 11 police are bad. When you say we all need to just ignore the law, like that will fix things, yes you're full of it. I admire a man who hates bad cops, but you are one sour individual. As you said, it was police who finally rooted out the bad cops, wasn't it?

2. Sorry that this forum gets used for this stuff and that I actually participated. I will stick with the equipment and technique threads from now on.

3. Seriously? You want me to believe what I see in movies?