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Old 12-27-2006 | 04:24 PM
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I have to diagree I hunt with dogs andI am a veryethical hunter,
Besides what would be the difference ,have a dog run a deer past and see how good your marksmanship is or bring them into a bait pile so you can get a 10 yard shot while it has its mouth full of corn
Every one to there own though I guess
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Old 12-27-2006 | 06:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: bradisthebest

I have to disagree. I hunt both ways for deer i still hunt and stalk and also run the hounds. These dogs were breed to chase these animals therefor we should not stop them. I hunt on all private land and always try to keep the dog on our property but somtimes they slip through to another property but that is life and it is not the dogs fault or the humans.
I have to disagree with your statement,if you cant control your dogs and keep them where they should be then spend more time training the dogs or leave them at home ,your right its not there fault its there handlers.
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Old 12-27-2006 | 07:29 PM
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I hunt in VA and when the tailgate drops the bullshi*t stops!! I say RELEASE THE HOUNDS!! My brother and his buddy came home last week for a week of hunting. They are both stationed in Germany and were stateside for a week of intensified combat training before they go to the desert after the new year. After their training they took the week off to hunt as they have not been in a couple of years. They still hunted thewhole week and saw some deer and my brother killed a little buck. The last day they could hunt was last Friday so I took them dog hunting on the Eastern Shore for a change of pace. You might be wandering "Where is he going with this?" so I will tell you. My brothers friend is from Michigan andhas hunted for most of his life . He is used to baiting(supplemental feeding)hunting on Sunday, the whole nine. Pretty much the opposit of VA laws. He also stated he had never dog hunted and back home people shot dogs that run deer but he was not opposed to going.So we go, the first hunt we jump 4 bucks, and my brothers friend killsone the dogs ran to him. He was so excited and that was the first hunt of the day, later he saw a monster but was too far for a shot.By the end of the day he had a better understanding of dog hunting and really enjoyed himself. Wehad a good group of guys, a safe hunt,the area we huntin we have good relations with the landowners and it was an all around fun, successful hunt. There are bad apples in all forms of hunting but it is just plain ignorant to label a whole group.
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Old 12-27-2006 | 07:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: Leafrivermac

I'm also opposed to deer hunting with dogs. I guess a lot depends on where dog hunts are taking place as to whether it's an ethical practice or not.
Dog hunting is not as popular here in Ms as it used to be, as most hunters that respect other folks lands and posted signs have long since given up dog hunting in favor of still hunting.
Another thing that makes the "dogs can't read posted signs" statement offencive to me is that most hunters are now using breeds of dogs such as the Running Walkers" that are known for running deer unlimited distances. Seems to me that if the dog hunter even intended to have range control of his hounds he would opt for other breeds. Face it, deer dog hunting in the best case scenerio is done with the intent of busting deer off private land and push them to where it is legal to shoot.
By experiance I have found deer dog hunters to be the most unethical of all the hunters, and an imposition to other hunters and non hunters alike.
I regularly write my congressman expressing my opinion of deer dog hunting, seeking to see it banned from my state. I encourage folks to do the same.
So let me get this straight you write your congressman to attempt to get dog hunting banned. Good work, ANTI!!
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Old 12-27-2006 | 07:34 PM
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Using dogs is a lazy way to hunt deer, I say the same thing for hogs. However if a ton of hogs are tearing up farming land then they need to be dealt with however.
What is lazy about it? What do you actually know about it? How many times have you dog hunted? Do you or have you owned hunting dogs?
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Old 12-27-2006 | 07:38 PM
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I am tired of the people with deer dogs hunting 5 acres and saying dogs don't read No Trespassing Signs.
Idiot don't turn you dog lose to run if it does not have enough room to run.
I think if your dog ruins my hunt you should be responsible for paying meand my hunters what we pay for the hunt.
400 lbs of corn a week
300 per stand
15 per acre lease
tractor
fertilizer/ lime
food plot mix
time at whatever most professionals make
plus
don't forget the dammage your 4x4 makes down my wet roads (you rent a dozer fo a month)
pick up you beer cans and dip cans up so maybe nobody would know you been there.
Deer Hunting with dogs is alazy no count way to hunt
About as much sport and the same mentality as rapping someone and their land.

Dear Daleh,

What is unsporting about it? Is it not "fair"? Just deer hunting,we probably should quit using dogs for bird, waterfowl, small game too, huh?

If these guys are doing this stuff to your land why don't you MAN-UP and say something to them about it instead of whining on the internet about it.

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Old 12-27-2006 | 10:10 PM
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TRead lightly to try and stop anyone hunting legal you are a anti. By the way I still hunt but love to hear a good dog race while in my stand.
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Old 12-28-2006 | 06:33 AM
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I think if your dog ruins my hunt you should be responsible for paying meand my hunters what we pay for the hunt.
Just curious, you think dumping 400 lbs of corn on the ground every week effects your nieghbors hunting?If you werent baiting some of the deer you shoot more then likely wouldnt be on your property to begin with.Have you offered to pay for thier licenses?

Deer Hunting with dogs is alazy no count way to hunt
400 lbs of corn a weekfood plot mix
And sitting in a stand overlooking a pile of corn or a foodplot is quite demanding?Without the baitpiles and foodplots would the deer still naturally congregate to these areas?If not how is this more ethical than what anyone else is doing?Dog hunters are altering a deers behavior with dogs, your doing the same thing but using food to accomplish it.

Personally I dont care if you bait andI dont care if someone uses dogs.Its up to you and if its legal have at it.How anyone else kills thier deer legally is ofno concern to me.Making blanket statements about an entire group of hunters that dont hunt the way you do though does concern me, then you get idiots that are actively trying to get forms of hunting banned because they dont like em, happens all the time, dog hunting, baiting, crossbows, inline muzzleloaders,trapping, someone always thinks thier way is the only way and everyone else should change.Hunters have divided themselves into so many little factions now that antis dont even have to try to change things, were doing it to ourselves from the inside.Its going to cost us in the end, all they have to do is start with the most controversial methods of hunting and work thier way up, everytime a new vote comes up banning something it gets easier and easier for the nonhunting public to pass it.
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Old 12-28-2006 | 07:08 AM
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"If you don't hunt the way I do you are an unethical slob of a hunter"........How many times has that idea been hacked up on here......
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Old 12-28-2006 | 07:33 AM
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Well, 99% of the FL WMA's have designated Dog Areas on the opposite of the Still Hunting Areas. Hunters are responsible that their dogs do not run in the Still Hunt Area. In some WMA's, No Dogs Allowed!

The problem we have with deerdogs is on private property and that is a personal problem here. That we have to deal with our own descretion.
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