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Old 11-30-2006 | 06:49 PM
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Native Americans drove deer as a way to produce venison for their tribe, how can we be so arrogant to say that it's not hunting. It's not a modern way, it's a primitive way...?

They also used fire to push/drive deer, what ya'll think of that if modern man did that..yeah right?
I sure am not out to hurt anyone's feelings or yours Rob. I don't like it. And especially do not like it when it ruins other peoples hunt.I have done it before (last dayof season of course)and got a decent 8 point. But it didn't mean anything to me. All it was for me was getting meat. I wasn't proud of the rack.

I guess its whatever floats people's boat. Then you put bow hunting in the mix, I couldn't imagine. I like to shoot my bucks calm and not running with a bow.
 
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Old 11-30-2006 | 07:06 PM
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If it is legal, then go for it. Too many people have the ideas that if it isn't the way "I" hunt, its wrong. Everybody looks for ways to make it easier to kill deer. You can sit in trees, use scents, food plots, drives, rifles, compound bows, camoflage, decoys and dozens of other ways to get the edge and I guarantee that somewhere there will be opposition to the method of hunting.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 11:52 AM
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I just got back and sure apreciate everyones input.There all valid points.I dont think doing drives aught to be allowed on public land because it messes up every one elses hunting.I also think its not safe.And because shooting a running deer is going to result in something messy more times than it should.I guess a private land owner should be able to allow it if he wants,makes sence to me.
I dont know about the natives doing it to feed there people,heck they were hungry.Im not,I have enough veni in the freezers to last till mid summer,and thats 3 meals a day for 3 of us.
I still think ganging up on a deer to flush him and then sending him through the crossfire isnt a fitting way to take a big beautifull buck, but thats just me...what do i know.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 04:45 PM
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First Day of Shotgun here in MA. There were a couple of groups of Hunters setting up a drive, then getting into the back of a couple of pickups and moving down a bit and driving again. In a single day the went through large track of woods. They didn't leave much behind. The area that I hunted in bow has now been swept 3 times that I know of. Is it legal? YUP
Do I think it's right? NO WAY Where's the sportsmanship? Where is the scouting and ground work. these guys didn't look like they were going to starve or anything. Sorry for the rant, this is a sore subject right now.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 04:55 PM
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Native Americans drove deer as a way to produce venison for their tribe, how can we be so arrogant to say that it's not hunting. It's not a modern way, it's a primitive way...?

They also used fire to push/drive deer, what ya'll think of that if modern man did that..yeah right?
I sure am not out to hurt anyone's feelings or yours Rob. I don't like it. And especially do not like it when it ruins other peoples hunt.I have done it before (last dayof season of course)and got a decent 8 point. But it didn't mean anything to me. All it was for me was getting meat. I wasn't proud of the rack.

I guess its whatever floats people's boat. Then you put bow hunting in the mix, I couldn't imagine. I like to shoot my bucks calm and not running with a bow.
No feelings hurt big guy, not mine especially, I'm a die hard bowhunter and I'm not a fan of rifle at all. I've been in drives in late season archery and it's a ton of fun but I've never gotten off a shot, they just won't stop or are too jittery....I agree with you whole heartily. I think the poor deer are run too hard anyway, especially here in PA.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 05:06 PM
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Whenever we chase bluffs we do not yell, clap or anything. We just walk with the wind and step on the odd stick. Deer end elk walk right out the back. Haven't tried pushing for archery yet but someday i imagine we will. Of course the animal has to be stopped, draw, whistle/grunt and fire.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 05:24 PM
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I hate to sound ignorant but before joining this community....... I had never heard of a "deer drive." What in the world????? lol Well, never too old to learn. BTW....we will never be doing "deer drives" here. lol

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Old 12-01-2006 | 05:44 PM
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Whenever we chase bluffs we do not yell, clap or anything. We just walk with the wind and step on the odd stick. Deer end elk walk right out the back. Haven't tried pushing for archery yet but someday i imagine we will. Of course the animal has to be stopped, draw, whistle/grunt and fire.
Exactly right.
If you use the wind to drive the deer instead of 40 people and noisemakers a drive can be very productive and deer can be taken with a bow. Plus, if you are driving with that many people then the deer will be hauling butt on the way out and there will be plenty of gut shots.

I support driving deer, dog hunting, etc...(as long as lega).. but we must all use a little common sense. A deer drive on public land on opening morning is not a good idea.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 08:50 PM
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I don't think that driving deer during bow season is the smartest thing because you can't get an accurate shot at a running deer with a bow. During shotgun season we do run dogs to get the deer moving.
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Old 12-01-2006 | 09:35 PM
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I don't think that driving deer during bow season is the smartest thing because you can't get an accurate shot at a running deer with a bow.
fishin. refer to the post above u.
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