Why do you need 100 pellets to kill a turkey you would be hard pressed to spread 50 pellets around a 10 inch circle and not have a few find the head and neck I have personally seen turkeys look like you hit them with a sledge hammer at 65 yards w #5s

Well that's the norm for being able to 100% of the time kill a turkey at whatever distance you can pattern 100 in the 10" at.

Now where's those killer patterns at 40yds?

As good as some of my patterns are, I couldn't even think of shooting one at 75yds.

Here's some more of mine. Don't take me long to back up my patterns at 40yds.

And here's one more I 'll show you at a tape measured 40yds from tip of choke to target I was shooting at. Both these are a half of sheet of copy paper. Both of those were hit about as good as any gun and choke will shoot them at that distance using these loads. And I would bet money on that claim. The one on the left is my 870 3" shooting Hevi-13 3" 2oz #7's with a MAD Super Max .675 choke, and the one on the right was my Moss 835 and Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz #7's with a Star Dot .676 choke.

Todd,

You would think that a guy that could kill a turkey at 65yds should of at least patterned his gun at 40yds so he could know that he had a 65yd gun. I know I would. I guess he's going to need a few days to post some patterns.

I would love the day that you "put me in my place" lol. I'm sorry my hobby isn't patterning my shotgun have I shot it enough to have confidence it will kill turkeys absolutely do I get off on my pellet counts No my current set up of hevi 13 #5s in combination w the hevi shot choke tube have proven Very effective on wild turkeys at extended ranges. I have hunted turkeys for 15 years and have taken roughly 30 birds having only ever shot at 1 I didn't take home with me that was attempting to double after already killing a bird. Don't get on some high horse bc u post pics of bird shot peppering a piece of cardboard. You may have also misunderstood the original intent was not to condone 70 yard shots but simply to discuss there bring 0 advantage w modern guns to 7 shot any distance 7 shot will kill a turkey 5 will do it just as well and when getting to extreme ranges the 5s give u a much higher likelyhood of going home w a bird. I have never personally shot a turkey over 55 yards but have watched others who use the same set up as I kill them at 65 and 75.

It will take more than confidence for a gun shooting any Hevi-13 loads to kill a turkey at 65yds 100% of the time. So your philosophy is kill some wound some.

And all that you said there is just more trash. You probably don't even know how to pattern your gun at 40yds to even think you would have results to even attempt shooting at turkeys 65yds or more. Same goes for your buddies that you was talking about. And 5's will not hold a very good pattern at all even at 50yds. Just goes to show you that you don't know anything about what makes a turkey gun a 65yd killer.

Sorry dude, but I'm not buying it. Nor do I buy your 65yd or 75yd claims.

All BS to me.

I respect your opinion I am only telling you what I witnessed personally I have never shot a bird over 55 and have killed all but 1. We will agree to disagree.

That's cool with me. I hope you just keep the long shots to yourself instead of posting them here. And take what I said about patterning your guns at 40yds in a 10 and 20" circle. The 10" will be the working ants or bees on what to expect at 50yds and so on. I hope some day you will shoot your guns at 50yds with those loads your using now and see what I mean about how they fall apart at that distance. Every 10yds will take off 80 to 100 more pellets in the 10". That's just years of patterning experience and will be very accurate for any gun, choke and load regardless of the size shot your shooting.

Not really. The two components of how far you can consistently kill turkeys with any load are pattern density and the ability of a pellet to penetrate deeply enough to kill at a given range. No doubt Hevi-13 number 5 pellets are going to carry more penetrating power than Hevi-13 number 7 shot. But the pattern density with number 5's is going to fall below acceptable levels pretty quickly.

It doesn't make a tinkers @#^& how thoroughly a pellet would have killed a turkey if it sails past his head and neck 3 inches to the left or right. Or even worse hits him in areas that are not immediately lethal so that he runs off and dies from infection.

Tack a sheet of poster paper on a tree at 60 or 70 yards and shoot at the center of it with a load of hevi-13 number 5's. I'll bet you will see holes in the pattern that you could run a ground hog through much less a turkeys head and neck.