Brad C.

Well I will show you how my other lot of 3.5" 7's will shoot at a taped 40yds. That 300325 lot I showed earlier is just one exceptional lot. But I would say with the right gun and choke 280 to 300 shouldn't be out of the question. And you may even get more.

bghunter777

I appreciate all the feedback and love hearing from other hunters expierience. This season personally I have taken 3 birds and called in 3 others. the two farthest where not shot by me but I witnessed the kills. I am not condoning this distance but the farthest two verified by a rangefinder where 65-75 yards With str8 #5 hevi shot. I still struggle to believe #7s are going to provide the KE at those distances. I think of it this way and my percentages are purely for example purposes. I'm not condoning the longer ranges but feel the larger shot still possess plenty of pellets at closer range say 40 yards that awesome to put 500 pellets in the head but 50 pellets of #5 has the same result where I personally feel the larger shot sepeartes itself is at longer ranges.

Again if your goal is 40-50 yards 5s and 7s both work identically well but for those times I misjudge the yardage I think you have a much higher percentage of taking the bird with a full compliment of larger shot. I provided an example of percent of killing the bird below this is in no way scientfic but just gives and example I am a believer in Hevi shot but it is what it is 10% denser than lead you can't tell me #7s went from a 35 yard load to 55 just by using a 10% denser material.

30 yards / %kills

Hevi #5/ 100%

Hevi #7/ 100%

Lead loads/ 100%

40 yards

Hevi #5/ 100%

Hevi #7/ 100%

Lead/ 95%

50 yards

Hevi #5 100%

Hevi #7 95%

Lead 75%

60 Yards

Hevi #5 75%

Hevi #7 50%

Lead 40%

70 Yards

Hevi #5 50%

Hevi #7 10%

Lead 5%

Brad C.

Well I will tell you Hevi- 13 #7's will probably kill as far as it will pattern 100 shot in a 10". How far that is I don't know. Nor do I care. Again I will say that nobody that is a turkey hunter has any business trying to shoot any turkey past 60yds. And really 60yds is 180 feet and really to dang for to be shooting one in all reality. Again, go read what I posted in your other thread. Hopefully you will get it.

bghunter777

I am glad that you have come up with the criteria all others be judged by to call themself a turkey hunter! " maybe I will get it"? or possibly maybe you will get it someday. Do I prefer a bird get closer and make every effort to take a bird as ethically as possible i love the thrill of having one breathing down my neck. Will I shoot 65 yards at a turkey with full confidence in my set up in the right setting absolutely yes. Equipment is changing my friend and I have 100% confidence in my gun and load at that distance a 40 yard shot with a bow used to seem unethical and irresponsible now its common practice out west and even in the east.

Brad C.

Well I guess we will just have to agree we disagree.

bghunter777

X2 Agreed!

Brad C.

Why don't you show me some of these patterns your geting at 40yds taped measured that are killing these turkeys at 65yds 100% of the time since you and your friends got all this long distance killing all figured out.

Surely since you can shoot one that far you should be able to back up those claims with factual proven 40yd patterns. I can tell you this much you will lose approx 80 to 100 shot from a 40yd 10" pattern when going to a 50yd 10" pattern from the exact same load, choke and gun. The same goes from 50yds to 60yds. Now do the math and show me your great pattens at 40yds.

Todd1700

And I struggle to believe anyone is still getting an acceptably dense pattern at 65-75 yards with straight 5's even with hevi shot. No doubt that a hevi-13 number 5 pellet would kill at that range if it hit the spine or brain but that would be a dicey proposition at that range.

Best pattern I have seen at 40 yards with Hevi-13 5's was about 141 inside 10 inches. At 50 yards that pattern is already going to be sub 100. Maybe as low as 75. By 60 yards it's going to be well below 50. By 70 yards you would be very lucky to put 20 pellets inside 10inches. And I'm being generous with those estimates.

Brad C.

Thank you Todd. Your exactly right. I think it's time for this guy to put up or shut-up. And I hate to say that. But that's why I came back with the patterns I want him to show us the proof. Should be able to do it immediately if he wants any validity to his claims at all. I think he and is buddies are internet wonders.

The best I have got out of my 835 and StarDot choke with Hevi-13 3.5" 1.75oz #5's, and I have only shot one shell was 155 I believe in a 10" at 40yds.

I would love to see any magblend or hevi-13 #5 pattern at 40yds that would even lead me to think that it would be capable at killing a turkey at 65yds or farther. And I'm talking a legit honest pattern at a honest 40yds taped and not some 30yd shot. I have seen enough of them in my time to know when someone is trying to bs there way to fame.

Brad C.

Here we go. Does anyone want to try for 100yds?

I wished I lived close to some of these characters so I could show them their guns and chokes and super loads are a bunch of hype. I already put one guy in his place I went to scool with years ago that claimed his brother's 870 would take a turkey head off at 40yds. I finally shut him up at the range when I asked him to show me how that gun shoots vs mine. And none of my guns I have will take a turkey head off at 40yds. But my 870 smoked that 870 gun and choke he claimed would.