It will take more than confidence for a gun shooting any Hevi-13 loads to kill a turkey at 65yds 100% of the time. So your philosophy is kill some wound some.

And all that you said there is just more trash. You probably don't even know how to pattern your gun at 40yds to even think you would have results to even attempt shooting at turkeys 65yds or more. Same goes for your buddies that you was talking about. And 5's will not hold a very good pattern at all even at 50yds. Just goes to show you that you don't know anything about what makes a turkey gun a 65yd killer.

Sorry dude, but I'm not buying it. Nor do I buy your 65yd or 75yd claims.

All BS to me.