Mossberg 500 vs. Remington 870
#22
ORIGINAL: hunter1089
I'v been looking for a shotgun for a long time but have been between a Mossberg 500 Bantam 12-Gauge or a Remington 870. What do you think would be best for both Turkey and Other game birds? What length of barrel do you think is best for all game?
I'v been looking for a shotgun for a long time but have been between a Mossberg 500 Bantam 12-Gauge or a Remington 870. What do you think would be best for both Turkey and Other game birds? What length of barrel do you think is best for all game?
Remington® makes a great product,
you just get less for more money.
I feel the Remington® is overated like the Mossberg® is underated. I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone just furnishing my candid observation.
Mossberg® makes more pump shotguns than any other manufacturer. They offer a lot of value for the $$ spent; full set of choke tubes vs only one with the Remington (Express); a truly ambidexterous safety, a ten year warranty, etc. Mossberg® guns ARE NOT CHEAP; RATHER THEY ARE INEXPENSIVE. IMHO a 26" barrel would best serve your needs; not too long for turkey hunting, great for the uplands, & not too short for waterfowl either.

#23
ORIGINAL: stickin8s
I don't want to start a long debate on this, but just because someone misses something once, that doesn't make it a bad gun. I 99.9% of the time it is operator error, not equipment error. To say that your 870 has never killed a turkey, well how could it if you don't use it? sounds like your son had a bad experiance, and you decided to blame the gun. Encourage him to keep using the 870, he won't be disappointed noce he finds a goold load that works with the gun. I know for a fact that they are capable of killing turkeys out to 55 yards, with only a 3" shell. I just don"t see a mossberg performing like that.
I don't want to start a long debate on this, but just because someone misses something once, that doesn't make it a bad gun. I 99.9% of the time it is operator error, not equipment error. To say that your 870 has never killed a turkey, well how could it if you don't use it? sounds like your son had a bad experiance, and you decided to blame the gun. Encourage him to keep using the 870, he won't be disappointed noce he finds a goold load that works with the gun. I know for a fact that they are capable of killing turkeys out to 55 yards, with only a 3" shell. I just don"t see a mossberg performing like that.
#25
My philosophy, and mine only, is that I NEVER hunt Turkey at 50-60 yards. To me, that is not wise. It is not about accuracy or technique. It is about the hunt.
Mine also!
#26
870 no doubt!I don't like the top side safety on the mossberg.The trigger is so much easier to pull on an 870,and you get what you pay for.
Is a 28" that much heavier to hold up than a 24"?Somewhat,but there is only a 4 ounce difference(7lb 4oz vs 7lb8oz lbs)Unless you are weak it won't matter.Just scoot down,and prop it on your knee.If you have to swing around behind you,you are already in trouble.When you set up you need to make sure there are no vines to snag on.I like my long pole 28" barrel for turkeys/deer.It holds a better pattern than the 24" does to me,but it is the "trend" to go short on turkey guns.I'm not trendy.[8D]
All around?I'd have to say 26".I like my 26" barrel for small game/birds etc.You can use all kinds of chokes to achieve what you want.THE 26 WILL be fine for turkeys too,just pattern it,andfind you range.
Is a 28" that much heavier to hold up than a 24"?Somewhat,but there is only a 4 ounce difference(7lb 4oz vs 7lb8oz lbs)Unless you are weak it won't matter.Just scoot down,and prop it on your knee.If you have to swing around behind you,you are already in trouble.When you set up you need to make sure there are no vines to snag on.I like my long pole 28" barrel for turkeys/deer.It holds a better pattern than the 24" does to me,but it is the "trend" to go short on turkey guns.I'm not trendy.[8D]All around?I'd have to say 26".I like my 26" barrel for small game/birds etc.You can use all kinds of chokes to achieve what you want.THE 26 WILL be fine for turkeys too,just pattern it,andfind you range.
#27
ORIGINAL: dawei
Mossberg® makes more pump shotguns than any other manufacturer. They offer a lot of value for the $$ spent; full set of choke tubes vs only one with the Remington; a truly ambidexterous safety, etc.
Mossberg® makes more pump shotguns than any other manufacturer. They offer a lot of value for the $$ spent; full set of choke tubes vs only one with the Remington; a truly ambidexterous safety, etc.
My philosophy, and mine only, is that I NEVER hunt Turkey at 50-60 yards. To me, that is not wise. It is not about accuracy or technique. It is about the hunt. It may work for you, but my philosophy is when I am ambushing turkey, I am using the art of calling, maybe a decoy to enhance the fever of that Tom, and the art of concealment via camo to lure the bird in with no outline problems. If the bird doesn't come in, he doesn't come in, yet I am not going to take that bird at 55 yards just because I can.
I'm just not going to let a bird go that someone else may get while I'm at work the next day.It has happened a few times before,but it won't happen again.
If I feel like the bird is farther than 50 I will not shoot,and I can live with that.I call 50yds my cut off point because I have a tendency to think that swollen up gobbler is closer than he is,and that way he will be less than 60 when I shoot.
#29
Most of my birds have fallen to 2 ounces of #4, Federal. I switched several years ago to #5s, 2 oz Super X because they seemed to pattern the best with the extra full rem choke with this gun.
#30
Joined: Oct 2005
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coyotestalker, apparently your reading a little to much into my post. I am
not completely against mossbergs. Heck I own some, I even owned a 835
for a while. I sold it, I did not like it. A freind of mine owns a 835, that one isn't to bad. I have used both guns side by side, so I stick to my thoughts. I now usea winchester 1300 buck and tom model, I like this better than the remington. As far as the way you think I hunt, you couldn't be more wrong. I myself, like ranchhand99, hunt public land. Not because I don't have anywere else to go, but because of the challenge.
Now if I get a turkey within 50 yards I am going to shoot. By the way I also use decoys, turkey calls, and camo. I don't just sit there and wait for one to walk by.
not completely against mossbergs. Heck I own some, I even owned a 835
for a while. I sold it, I did not like it. A freind of mine owns a 835, that one isn't to bad. I have used both guns side by side, so I stick to my thoughts. I now usea winchester 1300 buck and tom model, I like this better than the remington. As far as the way you think I hunt, you couldn't be more wrong. I myself, like ranchhand99, hunt public land. Not because I don't have anywere else to go, but because of the challenge.
Now if I get a turkey within 50 yards I am going to shoot. By the way I also use decoys, turkey calls, and camo. I don't just sit there and wait for one to walk by.



