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Old 01-13-2006 | 02:11 PM
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i would go with at least the 870 maybe even the 870super magnum
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Old 01-14-2006 | 01:40 PM
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I'v been looking for a shotgun for a long time but have been between a Mossberg 500 Bantam 12-Gauge or a Remington 870. What do you think would be best for both Turkey and Other game birds? What length of barrel do you think is best for all game?

Remington® makes a great product, you just get less for more money.I feel the Remington® is overated like the Mossberg® is underated. I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone just furnishing my candid observation.

Mossberg® makes more pump shotguns than any other manufacturer. They offer a lot of value for the $$ spent; full set of choke tubes vs only one with the Remington (Express); a truly ambidexterous safety, a ten year warranty, etc. Mossberg® guns ARE NOT CHEAP; RATHER THEY ARE INEXPENSIVE. IMHO a 26" barrel would best serve your needs; not too long for turkey hunting, great for the uplands, & not too short for waterfowl either.


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Old 01-14-2006 | 02:21 PM
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I don't want to start a long debate on this, but just because someone misses something once, that doesn't make it a bad gun. I 99.9% of the time it is operator error, not equipment error. To say that your 870 has never killed a turkey, well how could it if you don't use it? sounds like your son had a bad experiance, and you decided to blame the gun. Encourage him to keep using the 870, he won't be disappointed noce he finds a goold load that works with the gun. I know for a fact that they are capable of killing turkeys out to 55 yards, with only a 3" shell. I just don"t see a mossberg performing like that.
I am sorry that you don't think a Mossberg can perform to kill turkey out to 55 yards. You must be missing something.I can place a nice ring of shot at 50-60 yards using my trusty Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag with 3 inch federals #6, though I do not rely on any gun to take a turkey down in the 50-60 yard range. My philosophy, and mine only, is that I NEVER hunt Turkey at 50-60 yards. To me, that is not wise. It is not about accuracy or technique. It is about the hunt. It may work for you, but my philosophy is when I am ambushing turkey, I am using the art of calling, maybe a decoy to enhance the fever of that Tom, and the art of concealment via camo to lure the bird in with no outline problems. If the bird doesn't come in, he doesn't come in, yet I am not going to take that bird at 55 yards just because I can. Maybe you should not be biased on the Remington deal, because Mossberg and others can take down upland game, hell even some predators at 50-60 yards, using the right shot and being accurate.
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Old 01-14-2006 | 02:29 PM
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Let me get this right before I say something about a 100ft tape measure

This is a stock mossburger with a after market choke tube correct???
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Old 01-14-2006 | 02:42 PM
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My philosophy, and mine only, is that I NEVER hunt Turkey at 50-60 yards. To me, that is not wise. It is not about accuracy or technique. It is about the hunt.

Mine also!
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Old 01-14-2006 | 02:54 PM
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870 no doubt!I don't like the top side safety on the mossberg.The trigger is so much easier to pull on an 870,and you get what you pay for.Is a 28" that much heavier to hold up than a 24"?Somewhat,but there is only a 4 ounce difference(7lb 4oz vs 7lb8oz lbs)Unless you are weak it won't matter.Just scoot down,and prop it on your knee.If you have to swing around behind you,you are already in trouble.When you set up you need to make sure there are no vines to snag on.I like my long pole 28" barrel for turkeys/deer.It holds a better pattern than the 24" does to me,but it is the "trend" to go short on turkey guns.I'm not trendy.[8D]

All around?I'd have to say 26".I like my 26" barrel for small game/birds etc.You can use all kinds of chokes to achieve what you want.THE 26 WILL be fine for turkeys too,just pattern it,andfind you range.
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Old 01-14-2006 | 03:22 PM
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Mossberg® makes more pump shotguns than any other manufacturer. They offer a lot of value for the $$ spent; full set of choke tubes vs only one with the Remington; a truly ambidexterous safety, etc.
I bought my super mag with three chokes,full,mod,imp cyl.True the "turkey model" gun only comes with a turkey choke.

My philosophy, and mine only, is that I NEVER hunt Turkey at 50-60 yards. To me, that is not wise. It is not about accuracy or technique. It is about the hunt. It may work for you, but my philosophy is when I am ambushing turkey, I am using the art of calling, maybe a decoy to enhance the fever of that Tom, and the art of concealment via camo to lure the bird in with no outline problems. If the bird doesn't come in, he doesn't come in, yet I am not going to take that bird at 55 yards just because I can.
Well,I'll have to go against the grain here.If you can call a bird in less than 60yds he's yours!Most Tom's hang up 75 to 100yds,so I feel if he's less than that.He's commited,and you've won the game.I hunt HIGHLY pressured public land where I can not be assured if I let a tom walk @50yds,that I can get anotherchance at him another day.I need a gun that can shoot 50-60yds,and my Super Mag has never let me down.Now I don't shoot when a bird gets 50yds,I try to take the birds at 35 or less,but if a bird looks as though he's lost interest,is going to come in at the wrong angle,or is going to leave...I'm taking that shot,and I know my 870 will deliver.She's dropped them hard at these distances several times before.

I'm just not going to let a bird go that someone else may get while I'm at work the next day.It has happened a few times before,but it won't happen again.If I feel like the bird is farther than 50 I will not shoot,and I can live with that.I call 50yds my cut off point because I have a tendency to think that swollen up gobbler is closer than he is,and that way he will be less than 60 when I shoot.
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Old 01-15-2006 | 05:47 PM
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remington 870 with a extra full for turkey and a 28 inch barrel, plus it works awesome for pheasant duck and goose
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Old 01-15-2006 | 07:32 PM
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Most of my birds have fallen to 2 ounces of #4, Federal. I switched several years ago to #5s, 2 oz Super X because they seemed to pattern the best with the extra full rem choke with this gun.
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Old 01-16-2006 | 05:33 AM
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coyotestalker, apparently your reading a little to much into my post. I am
not completely against mossbergs. Heck I own some, I even owned a 835
for a while. I sold it, I did not like it. A freind of mine owns a 835, that one isn't to bad. I have used both guns side by side, so I stick to my thoughts. I now usea winchester 1300 buck and tom model, I like this better than the remington. As far as the way you think I hunt, you couldn't be more wrong. I myself, like ranchhand99, hunt public land. Not because I don't have anywere else to go, but because of the challenge.
Now if I get a turkey within 50 yards I am going to shoot. By the way I also use decoys, turkey calls, and camo. I don't just sit there and wait for one to walk by.
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