i don't think it's 10 bucks cheaper from what i see so far but cost aside i'm just happy to buy american ! i always buy usa unless there's a reason i can't get around to buy the other !! i'm going to see if our shooting club will place it on the next order that will bring the price down even further and when your buying in that volume range the shipping and hazmat are next to zilch !!

I only bought OE once. It was only $1.00 more than regular Goex and I paid $16lb for OE. Swiss at the time was $25.95.

I see now they raised the price of OE to $18.59. So, it isn't $10 cheaper anymore. Maybe someone can explain how they added the extra power for what was originally just $1.00 lb more in price? Now it's still just $1.50 more than Goex. What do they bother to even make the regular Goex anymore? I think they do for those who want real black powder. I know Swiss gets a lot more time processing it and it uses the best alder wood for charcoal. It's the reason it cost more. What is Hodgden doing to make OE equal to Swiss and only has to charge $1.50 more? Something isn't right.

Schuetzen is shipped to US too, and it's cheaper than Goex. Better powder too.

i highly disagree. That Schuetzen was dirty and no where near as accurate as goex. I think i fired 2 lbs of it and called it after that.

Others don't agree with that. Graf's powder is Schuetzen and many say it burns cleaner than Goex. I agree. Goex is the dirtiest powder I ever shot. What is it in OE that makes it cleaner than Goex?

Most likely the charcoal difference they use.

I even found my old reports about accuracy and how dirty the shutz was. I had been using mrflintlock lube and the balls were getting caught up in the fouling during reloading. Thats not clean powder.

All the right hand shots were with the rifles normal load and shuetz powder. Thats not accurate at 50 yards. Even in my rifle, anything over 90gr wasnt worth the lead.

Well, all BP is dirty. Even Swiss compared to subs. I shot nothing but Swiss for decades, but I wasn't paying today's prices for it. It still took a lot of swabbing.

Before anybody says anything else. These are my opinions and impressions.

Yours may be different. I'm not looking to change yours, so do me the same favor.

when a wet lube my mr flintlocks has a hard time breaking through fouling, thats pretty darn dirty.

Swiss is dirty yes, but to say it's dirtier than Pyrodex is pure blasphemy Pete!!! OE is just a bit dirtier than Swiss but not by much that I could tell the few times I used it.

MD is probably correct as to why it's priced the way it is Pete. And if you look at shipping overseas and hazmat charges and such you will see why it's so much cheaper than Swiss. I've no clue why OE is only marginally more expensive than reg Goex other than they just have a good mark up on Goex and don't charge such a high mark up on OE. If they did, then they wouldn't sell much because if they were close in price comparison to the better known Swiss people wouldn't buy it.