How should Wildlife Management be funded?
02-14-2009 | 05:09 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
I learned a long time ago that with some people the best thing to do is to just allow them to keep on doing their thing. Usually when they are on a misguided mission they will do more harm to themselves then anyone else can cause them. I think you have been doing quite well at proving your bias and misguided agenda without my repeatedly pointing it out to everyone.
The deer have proven you were wrong over and over again and you aren't man enough to admit it.
02-14-2009 | 05:18 PM
#322
Giant Nontypical
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
You claimed you were going to post the data that showed the shift in sample size and location, but you failed to meet that commitment. but, I posted the PGC dat that showed that the sample size and location did not shift as you claimed. I back my position with PGC data while you back your position with RSB hotse puckey.
The deer have proven you were wrong over and over again and you aren't man enough to admit it.
I learned a long time ago that with some people the best thing to do is to just allow them to keep on doing their thing. Usuallywhen they are on a misguided mission they will do more harm to themselves then anyone else can cause them. I think you have been doing quite well atproving your bias and misguided agenda without my repeatedly pointing it out to everyone.
The deer have proven you were wrong over and over again and you aren't man enough to admit it.
02-14-2009 | 07:45 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
You claimed you were going to post the data that showed the shift in sample size and location, but you failed to meet that commitment. but, I posted the PGC dat that showed that the sample size and location did not shift as you claimed. I back my position with PGC data while you back your position with RSB hotse puckey.
The deer have proven you were wrong over and over again and you aren't man enough to admit it.
I learned a long time ago that with some people the best thing to do is to just allow them to keep on doing their thing. Usuallywhen they are on a misguided mission they will do more harm to themselves then anyone else can cause them. I think you have been doing quite well atproving your bias and misguided agenda without my repeatedly pointing it out to everyone.
The deer have proven you were wrong over and over again and you aren't man enough to admit it.
No the deer are proving the direction wildlife management is and has been moving is what is correct forthe deer, their health, their habitat and the future of hunting.
I’ve explained that several times and you refuse to accept that there is a difference between individual WMU data and the statewide averages. I already told you I am not going to say or provide anything more on the data at this time.
If you want any additionaldata you will need to call Harrisburg and ask for it. I suspect there will be ample data used and available during thecourt proceedings. You can take notes there if you want more then is presently being made available on the Game Commission web site.
R.S. Bodenhorn
02-15-2009 | 04:07 AM
#325
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
I’ve explained that several times and you refuse to accept that there is a difference between individual WMU data and the statewide averages. I already told you I am not going to say or provide anything more on the data at this time.
I don't need the data for each WMU to prove that breeding rates declined in the majority of the WMUs because based on the sample sizes in the 2007 AWR, that is the only way that the breeding rates could have declined by 5%.
02-15-2009 | 05:19 AM
#326
Giant Nontypical
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
You really are a loser if that's all you have.
You really are a loser if that's all you have.
You dismiss the research, conclusions and recommendations of wildlife professionalslike Kroll, Samuel, Asheimer etc etc while yousupport the conclusionsof the likes of Lily Huang, an anti hunting rookie reporter for Newsweek.
You dismiss the real lifeexperiences and observationsof a WCO who has spent most of his working life in PA's traditional deer country but you expect readers here to accept the experiences and observations of a hunter who has no experience there.
You cant manage to find more than a few whitetails over an entire season within a WMU that has so many deer that other hunters canharvest multiple deer consistently yet you dismiss the observations of hunters who consistently find and harvest deer on public lands
The dead horse cartoons are simply appropriate to exemplify the redundancy and pointlessness of your endlessly repetitive posts of the same old distortions and apples vs oranges conclusions.
Yep, the dead horse pictures are appropriate as are Jims Blah Blah Blah commentary's
02-15-2009 | 07:37 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter
I post the dead horse beatings because all you have are the same old tired unsupported claims. You choose to dismiss any and every response, you dismiss the findings of numerous wildlife biologists, and you offer nothing constructive.
You dismiss the research, conclusions and recommendations of wildlife professionalslike Kroll, Samuel, Asheimer etc etc while yousupport the conclusionsof the likes of Lily Huang, an anti hunting rookie reporter for Newsweek.
You dismiss the real lifeexperiences and observationsof a WCO who has spent most of his working life in PA's traditional deer country but you expect readers here to accept the experiences and observations of a hunter who has no experience there.
You cant manage to find more than a few whitetails over an entire season within a WMU that has so many deer that other hunters canharvest multiple deer consistently yet you dismiss the observations of hunters who consistently find and harvest deer on public lands
The dead horse cartoons are simply appropriate to exemplify the redundancy and pointlessness of your endlessly repetitive posts of the same old distortions and apples vs oranges conclusions.
Yep, the dead horse pictures are appropriate as are Jims Blah Blah Blah commentary's
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
You really are a loser if that's all you have.
You really are a loser if that's all you have.
You dismiss the research, conclusions and recommendations of wildlife professionalslike Kroll, Samuel, Asheimer etc etc while yousupport the conclusionsof the likes of Lily Huang, an anti hunting rookie reporter for Newsweek.
You dismiss the real lifeexperiences and observationsof a WCO who has spent most of his working life in PA's traditional deer country but you expect readers here to accept the experiences and observations of a hunter who has no experience there.
You cant manage to find more than a few whitetails over an entire season within a WMU that has so many deer that other hunters canharvest multiple deer consistently yet you dismiss the observations of hunters who consistently find and harvest deer on public lands
The dead horse cartoons are simply appropriate to exemplify the redundancy and pointlessness of your endlessly repetitive posts of the same old distortions and apples vs oranges conclusions.
Yep, the dead horse pictures are appropriate as are Jims Blah Blah Blah commentary's
hey, they are human, they can and will walk talk.if they dont, they wont be around long.
i know, I DID NOT WALK THE TALK AND WAS REMOVED FROM A MANAGEMENT POSITIONAT MY JOB.
no different at PGC .
now, for funding the PGC ,first thing that has to be done is PGC has to show people and programs that they now have and why they are needed or required.
that is first step and should be in WRITING showing everything, costs and cost benefits.
if not,i see no support from hunters.
02-15-2009 | 07:48 AM
#328
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
WCO is not always right.or should i say, ALLOWED TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
hey, they are human, they can and will walk talk.if they dont, they wont be around long.
hey, they are human, they can and will walk talk.if they dont, they wont be around long.
02-15-2009 | 07:53 AM
#329
Nontypical Buck
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RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
You dismiss the research, conclusions and recommendations of wildlife professionals like Kroll, Samuel, Asheimer etc etc while you support the conclusions of the likes of Lily Huang, an anti hunting rookie reporter for Newsweek
02-15-2009 | 08:10 AM
#330
Giant Nontypical
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From: SW PA USA
RE: How should Wildlife Management be funded?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
Wrong again. I agree with Kroll that culling 1.5 spikes does no good and I agree that his research accounts for why ARs result in high grading and decreased rack sizes. I also agree with the research results from TX which concluded that a 3pt. AR like ours isn't the right approach to promoting a better buck age structure.
You dismiss the research, conclusions and recommendations of wildlife professionalslike Kroll, Samuel, Asheimer etc etc while yousupport the conclusionsof the likes of Lily Huang, an anti hunting rookie reporter for Newsweek
Wrong again, again! As for agreeing with the Texas research, you have flatly stated over and over that you support NO AR program.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!
Give the old dead horse a break!
