im sorry i meant to say buffalo bore

Hi 338,

If you are looking for some loading data for the .45/70 (including the 350 grain Hornady) go to:

http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=91

Hope that helps!

sorry i missed this post but there is no way you can compare any other factory ammo with buffalo bore and garrett these are the max loads that they make if you have been shooting remington 405 grain you would be in for a big surprise to shoot ethier of these brands. they both have there own web site and you can order from them. i have been shooting the buffalo bore 405 grain and they are very powerful , they will shoot thur a motor block and still have some left

Question: How do you know the Partition Gold bullets aren't expanding? Have you recovered any to examine?

Garrett are the first loads I will try after we get to Alaska. Looking for a good shooting load for a "packing gun"......the 1895GS. Either the 420+P's Hammerheads or possibly the 540 grain Hammerheads. The carbine will be equipped with a Ghostring rear apperature and a partridge type front. And carried as the second rifle between my wife and I. It will also share duties as a camp gun with an 870 loaded with Brenneke slugs.

I don't know if I'd bother with the expense of these loads for whitetail deer hunting though. Any cast or expanding soft point has more than enough "energy" for deer hunting. Plus 338 will probably find these bullets expand even less in an animal like deer. The hammerhead loads do absolutely transfer plenty of shock to the animal....but they really should work better on game larger than whitetails. There is no doubt that they would kill deer....but they certainly aren't needed for deer. But a very good load!

AKBOUND
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY THAT THESE ROUNDS ARE TOO BIG FOR WHITETAIL , BUT THEY ARE WITH OUT A DOUBT THE HARDEST HITTING ROUNDS THAT I HAVE EVER FIRED FROM MY 45/70 ( I HAVE A SINGLE SHOT H&R BUFFALO CLASSIC ). HAVE YOU EVER TRIED BUFFALO BORE ? THEY DO A GOOD JOB ALSO. ONE OF MY FRIENDS WANTED TO TRY IT OUT AND DIDNT SHOULDER IT WELL , HE NOW HAS A CHIPPED TOOTH FOR THAT MISTAKE

Hi DANTHEHUNTER,

No, I haven't tried Buffalo Bore's yet. Though I have been reading some good things about them, (and they are one of the loads along with Garrett that will get a trial once I get to Alaska).

Anytime you take a rifle as light as the 1895 Marlin (or H&R's single shot) and touch off something...not much shy of .458 Win Mag ballistics....you need to be careful! Sorry to hear about your friends tooth! (Not to mention he may never shoot that rifle well again!)

Speaking to that same theme....one of the reasons I decided to stick with the .45-70 instead of opting for the .450 Marlin, (other than the availability of loads like Garrett's), was so I could let the wife adjust to shooting it with "Trapdoor ballistics" factory loads. Prior to ever getting to the "bear stopper" loads. Besides, within its effective range even the watered down Trapdoor loads will kill a Moose plenty dead! It would work on any other North American game as well......but there is "much more confidence" in a load like Garrett when it comes to big hairy things with claws and teeth. Helps you sleep better at night in camp...too!

I THINK THESE TWO COMPANIES UNDERSTAND WOUND CHANNEL. BUT IT IS COOL THAT YOU CAN HAVE SUCH A BROAD RANGE IN FIRE POWER . FROM WHITETAIL TO RINO