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I agree! All these new short magnums and super short mags for that matter can' t do anything that their full length counterparts can' t. They just do it in a shorter action. For some people that is enough. All of the full length rounds these came from will do everything that the shorts do and do it further than most of us should be shooting. If you' re going to compare two virtually identical rounds to each other then make it an honest comparison. But then if they did that then people would realize that all these new short mags and supershort mags aren' t really necessary. However, us gun nuts are known to do things like develop new rounds just so we can buy more guns. I know I am always looking for a reason to buy a new gun in a different caliber. :-)

i have the 2003 catalog and it list the ballistics comparison with 180 gr bullets but doesnt state what they are. the 300 wsm doesnt offer much of the 300 winchester but i hear most people say being a short action is enough for them. ive seen alot of good reports and targets from hunters who realy like the 270 and 300 wsm. seems the 7mm wsm had a slow start and that hurt its sales some. True they shouldnt be running down proven rounds to boost there new shortmags.

I don' t think this is anything new, the numbers haven' t really jived to real time over the standards. I think most know this or at least would agree. But it seems they have everybody thinking they need the short throw, thus making it appealling. Not to long ago Long Action was the thing to have. It is all great marketing, get the public thinking they need it and sell it until the next thing comes along.

My Bad!

Instead of trying to " compete" with the standard mags I wish they' d go for something different. Like maybe a 6.5WSM.

Rumor has it that they are really undecided on whether to release a 257WSM or 6.5WSM as their smallest caliber offering in the short mag line.6.5 is less overbore and lends itself better to the program with bullet selection, but the 257 is getting more votes because of its popularity.I favor the 6.5 myself and would buy one over the 257 if given a choice.But they may offer the 338WSM ahead of either.

woods

Woodseye-There are in fact two 180gr partitions listed by nosler.One is the 180 gr protected point which does have a lower ballistic co-efficient than the standard 180gr partition.
Otis-This is exactly what I have been saying all along about winchester and browning trying to mislead people.They aren' t satisfied with telling us about the merits of their new cartridges but instead try to mislead us with skewed data.While the muzzle velocity figures may be correct for the wsm' s they are unrealistcally low for the standard magnums.Add in the difference in ballistic co-efficients and the result is an attempt at deception at best and outright lying at worst.

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I agree that the same bullet should be used to compare stats. However in this case Winchester is bashing thier own other cartridge. I quess they figure that everyone who would buy the old 300 mag has already done so and want to move on to sell everyone the short version. It won,t work on me. If I wanted a new mag rifle at this point, I would buy the short one just for the action. However if I had a full size mag I would not sell it to buy a short mag. Never believed in keeping up with the in crowd. I am looking with interest at the new Super Short 223 and 243 short mags. And would love to see a quarter bore Super Short Mag. The 223 short mag is supposed to be 200 fps faster than the 22-250. I wonder though about barrel life.