nahhh, it was not me

OK...I assure you this is my last post on this subject.....I suspect no one went to AR to read the thread....if you had you'd read the very last post that was a guy that said even his Savage police Tactical didn't feed well.....

Anyway...so far this issue has been viewed 2312 and posted to 96 times.....and in all that time only one person other than the chief combattants have posted positively for Savage reliability.....and that was James B

Further I truly believe his post was sincere and his rifle is as reliable as he claims!!!!

The final vote results are as follows

Winchester and Mauser...........................92
Remington and Ruger..............................16
Double rifles..........................................75
others including Sako and Weatherby.........24
Savage............................................ ......1

We also have a thread here asking what action one would use for a big game custom rifle.......and of course Savage faired very poorly there as well.........

I must say that if there have been major changes made in recent years they haven't made believers out of many folks....had that happened there would have been a much better showing.......

Savage gets very high marks from me for strength of the action...they are extremely strong......economical.....and I like that as much as anyone.....and accuracy...they practically set the standard for the entire industry for accuracy.....but it ends there.....and abruptly so.....and I now rest my case.....

Your wrong AGAIN, hardcorehunter stood up for savage, its had 63 replies with this post, and 811 hits.Learn to read man, buy you some glasses! I amnot wasteing my time on anything else you said.

I guess the 4 Savages I have don't know their supposed to have feeding, extracting, safety,and ejection issues. And all of them are pre-accutrigger. I also guess the other 7 I have owned previously didn't know that either.

Too say that Savage's are not BG rifles if a very poor statement. Maybe they are not your cup of tea. That is fine, but it is just your opinion. You are also making assumptions that are just not founded or true. Maybe in your limited experience, but not so for the majority. Head on over to the Savage Shooters forum, post your thoughts, and see what kind of response you get from hundreds of Savage shooters who have a lot more exposure to them then you do. JMHO

Speaking of polls; check this one out; #1 in sales SAVAGE. http://www.thunderbucks.com/cgi/forum/Blah.pl?b-gunsandammo/m-1147144101/s-0/ BTW, if you wantto join a kick butt hunting site here it is ; thunderbucks.com.
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Personally, I like the CZ's and M-70's for big game.

Vapo may not be 100% right purely on the merits of this thread; however, IMHO he is NOT 100% wrong either.

20against 1 is always fun and reassuringfor the 20; it takes conviction for the 1 to standhis ground, especially when the mob turns to"making it personal."

SavageMAY have a hot new DGR coming down the pike, but they're going to have to prove it. Their past performance in this arena has not been inspiring.

Found a review on a Savage accutrigger .458 Safari gun. Here is a quote followed by a link to the whole story. Having hunted this rifle under fairly harsh conditions ( did I mention that the giraffe hunt was unseasonably cold and it rained on and off the whole day?), I can definitely and honestly give it my seal of approval as a professional hunter. This one is definitely a keeper! The rifle fed flawlessly when operated smartly (meaning I don’t baby a bolt-I tend to slap ‘em back and slam ‘em home) which is important in a dangerous game rifle. Over the next few months, I intend to do some load development for this rifle to see what works best in it, as well as try several factory loads in various bullet weights and types. I really can’t wait to get back to Africa and give it a run on buff next year, and maybe an elephant if I have a client so inclined as to hunt one (any takers?)!
In closing, if you are looking for a safari grade rifle with the right power and “feel,” you won’t go wrong with the Savage 116 Safari Express, and it won’t break the bank either. http://www.savageshooters.net/Pages/Reviews/116SE_Review.html
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I agree that Savage would have to prove themself in the area of DG hunting. Time will tell the tale. I do believe that if they put their mind to it, they can build a first class DG rifle. There is sure room for some reasonably priced DG rifles that do not need to be rebuilt to do the job they were intended to do. I will be watching them progress with interest and an open mind. I am guilty of using the Ruger No.l in 416 Rem mag for such hunting. Guess that leaves me out of the crowd. However, I can't use a Bolt gun with any degree of speed with my bad shoulder. I can load and fire a No.l Ruger three times while doing it once with a Bolt. I have to bring a bolt gun down from my left shoulder and work it with my right hand then back to the left shoulder. My left arm is usless above waist level and I am not left handed so LH bolts don't help me much for speed. I still have to bring them down below my waist to work the bolt. THE JOYS of older age.[:@]