I really wonder if the market is saturated with 300 magnums in the US.

Just to kick around... what do they have to offer compared to the 7's... especially in light of modern .284 bullets and their ballistic coeffecients? For those of you that use both, I wondering what takes you to the decision to use one over the other? Or, as the English said, "Did God give Americans the .30 caliber?"

when it comes to the .30 cal verses the 7 MM you flip a coin and go hunting.

Both are eminently powerful and long ranged and will handle big game easily.

That said so will the .30-06 and the .280 Rem.

The 300s offer more energy and more recoil.Both do a great job on game up to and including elk and moose.

One thing I learned, the 7mm's sure do kick alot less with a bullet of equal sectional density.

My STW kicks less with with a 160gr bullet than a 300win mag with a 180gr I think.

That is one thing I have noticed as well. 7mms seem to have more of a "push" type of recoil, while .30s have more of a quick "jab" of a recoil. Another thing I have noticed between the two is 7mms have more muzzle flip than 30s but I have never lost sight picture while shooting anything with my 7mm, I've seen every impact. The 30s I've all shot I have never seen an actual impact, but they do make a louder "thump."

An sage old elk hunter told me about thirty years ago "if it wasn't for the recoil, everyone would hunt with a .300 magnum".

It was no accident that there are so many 30 caliber options. The 30 has always been an all american caliber. The 7mm is so european.[:'(].

Versitility is the reason that the 30 is popular with bullets from 100 to 250 grains, and velocities from 100 to near 4000 fps, there is not much that it won't do. You can disagree if you ,but recoil wise ,I would much rather shoot a 300 Win Mag than a 7MM Rem. Mag. Thats after owning three 300 Mags and five 7MM Remington Mags. The most pleasant one to shoot was the 300 Win Mag in the 700 Classic. The most painful was a 7MM Rem mag in the 110 Savage. Of course we are talking felt recoil which is all that counts for me.

As far as recoil goes, the weight and stock type have a lot to do with what you feel! I've got a .308 that has more "felt recoil," than my 7MM RM.