bigcountry

Ok guys, it is time I lose a little pride. I have a Rem. 700 BDL SS in 300RUM. I have done a little work, like pillar bedded, trigger adjusted, and barrel free floated. I shoot both factory and handloads. I can get about 1.5"- 2" groups at 100 yards consistently with factory loads. Had Rem. look at it and they sent me a letter saying they got .9" or so groups saying no problem found except for rough throat. Had the local range officer shoot it. He got great groups. All subMOA. When I shoot at the range, I shoot on sandbags and only hold the gun with my right hand and stock against my shoulder. He was holding the front of the stock with his left hand. Do you think he outshot me do to this? Maybe muzzle jump? Is it possible I am flinching? My groups did tighten up alot when I lowered the trigger from 6lbs to 2lbs. I try to shoot every week so I am working on it.

I got another 300RUM in the 700P tactical model with the bull barrel and H-S stock for a great price. Since this gun is so much heavier than the 700BDL , the recoil seems not near as severe. Right off the bat, I am getting MOA groups. Which leads me to believe that I am torquing the gun somehow due to the expected recoil on the BDL. Any suggestions. I may be getting ready to sell the BDL due to this, but wanted it to work well for a trip to canada this year. Would hate to have to pack that 14lb gun with the bull barrel 10 miles a day. I could always group well with my 243's, 270's and 308's in the 700 BDL models but have had trouble with this magnum. Makes it hard to test loads.

WiFAL

I've got a BDL in 300 RUM and shoot 0.5 to 0.75 groups with it routinely using factory ammo. For what its worth this is the only rifle I shoot where I find myself consciously setting up my shot in my mind before I pull the trigger. I know it's going to kick and I just let it do its thing. I make sure the butt is tight into my shoulder and I do hold the front stock with my left hand even when resting on sandbags. My 700 came with a good trigger so that's the way I shoot it.

Don't know if this helps but the 300 RUM can shoot great groups.

sshunter

Muzzle jump can and does affect accuracy.Holding your hand on the gun the same every time you shoot might help your groups.Different bullet velocity affects a muzzles jump when their is no downpressure on the barrel.The key is the same holddown pressure every shot.Try 3 shots each (hand/no hand)The hand shot "should" be lower and tighter.Works for me.Good luck

AJ300MAG

I installed a muzzle brake on my .300 Ultra Mag BDL to accomidate my bench shooting style. I normaly leave my left hand on the rifle rest under the forearm. Tried that with the Ultra Mag and got a rude awakening. The recoil caused my trigger finger to trip the floorplate release, and the sharply knurrled bolt knob to gouge some skin off the same finger. After 20 rounds of that, I ordered a Vais muzzle brake from Brownells. I can hear the murmuring in the background, but the ultra's loud enough to damage your hearing with or without a brake. IMO, anything over a .300 Win mag is going to cause you to change your grip when shooting off a bench. Can't get away with what you could shooting a "milder recoiling rifle".

Edited by - AJ300MAG on 01/09/2002 21:06:42

stubblejumper

The factory ultramags I have seen shoot around 1 to 1-1/2".My own custom averages 1/2" groups.If the other fellows are able to consistantly group better than you with the same rifle your bench technique needs work.

bigcountry

Somebody in another forum asked a good question but I don't ahve the answer. He asked what my groups look like. They are grouping horizontally. My groups look like a 1.5"-2" wide football with one inch or less long. My handloads do the same thing, just not as severe. I love the gun for its wieght and like the round due to its performance, and its beltless without the freebore of the weatherby round but it's working me to death at the range.

AJ300MAG

Try the old ball & dummy routine. Have somebody else load your rifle for you. Tell them to either chamber a live round or close the bolt on an empty chamber. Don't watch what he's doing or check the chamber before firing the rifle. Have him (or her) stand off to the side and watch you, especialy your trigger finger. You'll see whats happening the first time you drop the hammer on an empty chamber. Ever concider a muzzle brake? I've got one on my Weatherby .300. I would shoot 18 rounds off a bench at 300 yards, then move over to the 200 yard range and shoot another 20 working on my sitting & kneeling position, with only a tee shirt on without any ill effects. You can have a thread protector cap made to use in the field when hunting if your sensitive to the noise.

PaJack

Shooting a mag(with accuracy) takes practice! The more you shoot,the better you get. It sounds like you have everything covered,trigger pull and loads. Spend time at the range and things will come togeather...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hunt Safe!

Jack