baiting
12-05-2008 | 01:51 PM
#71
Nontypical Buck
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From: West Tennessee
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
12-05-2008 | 01:54 PM
#72
Typical Buck
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From: Becker County, MN
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
You would think so, wouldn't you? Some of these threads are making me start to wonder, though.
ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
12-05-2008 | 01:58 PM
#73
Dominant Buck
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GregH
Good one Burnie, you have exposed yourself, with photographic evidence as a .......(gasp!).....Pretender!![:-]
Everyone knows that a true elitist doesn't use aluminum arrows with (gasp!) METAL broad heads!! They don't live in houses constructed with man made materials either! They use wood arrows, stone broad heads and live in huts constructed out of animal skins which were sewn together with sinew and porcupine quill, or maybe stones and mud. You're busted! [8D]
Besides that, you've been out of the loop on the Bow hunting forum for too long........Just this week (earlier) we all got through this elitism crisis by deciding that to be a good hunter you must be proficient with your weapon of choice. This includes, guns (all kinds), bows (all kinds), spears, knives, catapults and bare hands. Therefore, it is a given that ALL of us are proficient with any weapon that we choose to use because we are all good hunters. We also decided that it's really all about the hunt, not the weapon.
Come join us!
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
Everyone knows that a true elitist doesn't use aluminum arrows with (gasp!) METAL broad heads!! They don't live in houses constructed with man made materials either! They use wood arrows, stone broad heads and live in huts constructed out of animal skins which were sewn together with sinew and porcupine quill, or maybe stones and mud. You're busted! [8D]
Besides that, you've been out of the loop on the Bow hunting forum for too long........Just this week (earlier) we all got through this elitism crisis by deciding that to be a good hunter you must be proficient with your weapon of choice. This includes, guns (all kinds), bows (all kinds), spears, knives, catapults and bare hands. Therefore, it is a given that ALL of us are proficient with any weapon that we choose to use because we are all good hunters. We also decided that it's really all about the hunt, not the weapon.
Come join us!
Those arrows are not aluminum. Good grief, what kind of hunter do you think I am? They are carbon. Actuall I have had obsidian heads and wooden arrows. I got away from them because of the cost. Much sharper heads, but a beotch to tune. And they are good for one animal, then they are pretty much done. There are some things I fudged as I got older, and arrows and self bowsare them.
12-05-2008 | 02:02 PM
#74
Fork Horn
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Live = Northern IL, Hunt = West Central IL
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: cooter144
no kidding...what the heck is going on around here lately?
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
You would think so, wouldn't you? Some of these threads are making me start to wonder, though.
ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
No kidding...people continue to comment without reading the original post and then it gets out of hand.
To re-cap, my response was in response to a post that questioned the difference between a cut corn field and a pile of corn - whether or not they both qualified as baiting.
My short reply:
The hunter who hunts over a cut corn field is NOT baiting, because he had no INTENT to bait. He was using the field to his advantage to kill deer.
The hunter who purposefully sets out a pile of corn is baiting. It was his INTENT to bait.
In both instances, they intend to kill deer.
One hunter baits, the other doesn't.
Rocket science.
12-05-2008 | 02:04 PM
#75
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: West Tennessee
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: cooter144
no kidding...what the heck is going on around here lately?
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
You would think so, wouldn't you? Some of these threads are making me start to wonder, though.
ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
Call me crazy but, isn't it all of our intentions to kill deer when we hunt? [&:].
12-05-2008 | 02:14 PM
#77
Dominant Buck
Joined: Oct 2005
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From:
RE: baiting
If you think corn is an indigenous crop....then I can see why you think a corn pile is baiting (although it would equate to putting out acorns, really). If you agree it isn't (and that they're BOTH "artificial")....I can't see the difference...other than the size of the pile.
No argument, here.....just stuck on what's artificial and what isn't.
We don't want others second-guessing our means and methods of taking game.....but it's seemingly "OK" to question another hunter's legal methods for doing just that?
Interesting.
No argument, here.....just stuck on what's artificial and what isn't.
We don't want others second-guessing our means and methods of taking game.....but it's seemingly "OK" to question another hunter's legal methods for doing just that?
Interesting.
12-05-2008 | 02:17 PM
#78
Guest
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RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
It's nothing new, Cooter. It's the same old song-and-dance. Some folks just aren't happy unless they're arguing. That's a big part of why I have an ex-wife.[8D]
It's nothing new, Cooter. It's the same old song-and-dance. Some folks just aren't happy unless they're arguing. That's a big part of why I have an ex-wife.[8D]
From my view, people are extremely sensitive.
12-05-2008 | 02:21 PM
#79
Nontypical Buck
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From: West Tennessee
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
To a point your right IMO. But from my view, its a tad different. Someone asks for opinions on a contraversal subject, people answers, and people gets thier feelings hurt because it doesn't align with thier own view. So the people that get thier feelings hurt decides to step outside the orginal question and start questioning why someone feels that way. Or change thier mind on the matter. Hunters don't change thier mind very often. So then because they disagree, they are elitist, they are on high horses or as in this thread, they are uneducated on the matter, or ignorant. The people that get thier feeling hurt feel attacked or belittled. But in reality, its rare for two people to totally agree on everything.
From my view, people are extremely sensitive.
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
It's nothing new, Cooter. It's the same old song-and-dance. Some folks just aren't happy unless they're arguing. That's a big part of why I have an ex-wife.[8D]
It's nothing new, Cooter. It's the same old song-and-dance. Some folks just aren't happy unless they're arguing. That's a big part of why I have an ex-wife.[8D]
From my view, people are extremely sensitive.