RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

How is that BS? It is And yes in Harsh winters Fawns and Bucks are the first to die but not all of them do. And thats in Harsh winters when food sources are sparce. Call it what you want if you take a Fawn you are selfish plain and simple the more you defend the more it doesnt make sense.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

x2 EXACTLY

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

i nice shot... i have no problem shooting them.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Cowboy, I guess Im selfish then!! YUMMMMYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't kill everytime, but I will take one or two a year, but i DO TRY TO SHOOT BIG DOES as well:D

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I would not normally take a doe fawn. That being said, I hunt one area (a by special invitation only program) and the Town in question wants us totake anything wesee.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Any of you that have ever played sports competitively might get this. Winning a game
by fifty points sucks, Knocking your opponent out with one punch is not fighting.

Its knocking the guy down in the tenth,its that base hit in the bottom of the ninth,those are the ones worth remembering.

And the same is true to me when hunting.It is not measured by the emotionless elimination of an unsuspecting infant.[:o]

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I think it was Patton who said.....(and I'll paraphrase)...The object of war is not to die for your country. The object of war is to make the other guy die for his.

I'll take the one punch knock out.;)

Jim.....You've never faced the situation I face here. That little doe will require the same amount of food to sustain as an older doe will throughout the winter, and there's only so much to go around. If I only had 2, 3, 4 tags??? Sure. I'd take the older gals. I have unlimited tags for does....and I've been advised to take ANY female deer.

Any moral dilemma I face is mitigated by the overpopulation issue.

I've said it before.....and I'll say it again. Hunting is VERY personal. My preference would be to hunt for A doe and A buck every season. I might get to a point where I do that, even here. But in making that choice.....I see that as being VERY selfish. The overall good of the many....vs. the demise of a few......is the ideology umbrella I'm working under.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

That is a very good analogy, but to me hunting also has a lot to do with bringing home meat. I don't buy red meat at all. I supply all the red meat we eat every year. If I did not do well enough to stalk the freezers by the beginning of whitetailseason, then I will shoot the first doe, be it a fawn, yearling, or adult, that comes by. Fawns are smaller, but they sure as heck taste the best. The rump roast isbetter than thetenderloin off of an old deer. I'm not arguing your point at all, just trying to explain mine. I don't hunt just for an adrenaline rush.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Jeff all that I can say is that I'm glad that I don't have your situation because I know that you struggle with what needs to be done and what your heart tells you. I personally have no problem shooting a yearling, I know that some people do. But what kills me is all of this "unsuspecting infant" and "baby killer" crap. Any deer that you kill is unsuspecting if they suspect that you are there to kill them they don't stay around, albeit a yearling or a mature buck. JeffI think that you need to settle this in your heart that if you want to honestly thin you her then make peace with it and go out there and do what you need to do. JMO

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I have played plenty of sports and while I "get" what you are saying I think it isa touch oversimplified for myself anyway. I kill plenty of deer and won't hesitate on a young doe and while it may not be the same level of excitment as looking through my peep at a nice buck the experiences are far more than "emotionless eliminations". I still feel plenty of emotions on any kill and Ienjoy every second I get in the deer woods and I geteven moreenjoyment/ satisfaction from any successful hunt. Ican understandhow itcould get old to someand I pass a lot ofdeer asI get a littlemore fadein my camo simply because processing deer can become like work when you kill 10-15 a season, but evenduring those seasons the emotion wasalways there regardless of the specs. on the deerand I'm thankful for that.

I too would prefer a one punch knockout to a ten round battle personally, I'm not sure which I prefer watching though as they both have their good points.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

vs.

That's what I deal with.
Yes. You understand. Thanks.;)

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

it would take me pulling back my bow and hitting my release

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

This thread may be the single most obvious example of self-righteous, pat myself on the back cause I do it this way, I've ever seen on here. What arguement could anyone of you have ifit's being done legally?All of a sudden the guys who dont do it are the ethics police for the guys who do and vice versa? Unbelievable. Somewhere along the way I read the word selfish in regards to shooting a doe fawn, seriously? I hope not. Why bother to shoot that 1.5 or that 2.5 then. What, it's ok since they have had more life experience? We're talking about deer here. You wouldn't think the Bambi syndrome would be alive and well in hunters but here it is. Blast away, but all those who criticize the other side on this, no matter what side you're on, are wrong.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

You grouse hunters better be aging your birds before you shoot them as well. Might be a young one in that group!

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Well I certainly didn't read 14 pages worth of responses as the topic really doesn't interest me. But I haven't really seen anything out of line in the few I have read.

It's like any topic there are tose that do this and those that do that..thats a forum for ya..anything else is a Post and ten people saying ."Yep"

I see your kinda new Loogout...learn the ebb and flow of the board and don't get so personally involved. :D

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

The young ones are better eating.;)

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

How much die off due to winter do you have down there? Or are you just worried the deer aren't getting as big as they should due to not getting enough nutrition?

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Maybe you need to open up the land to a youth hunt doe only the first couple weeks or for a season.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Having an opinion is never BS.
Telling people who do not share your opinion that there is something wrong with them is always BS.


Steve

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Grouse are awesome tasting birds, no dought in that! Gotta be the best tasting bird I've ate.:D

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

well put loogout1, well put.;)

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Not only great eating but great sport, stomping one day old baby grouse would beabout this much morechallenging than shooting a doe fawn.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

IMO, there is no difference taking a doe fawn and a mature doe. Either way you are killing an animal. For management purposes, its best to take does of all ages rather than just mature animals.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Probably very little die-off. Our NCWRC says we have about a 15-18% mortality rate of those who make it through the first season (actually....this encompasses the entire herd)......and the research I've recently read says that the fawn abandonment rate might be as high as 50%. Nature taking care of nature if you asked me.

Am I worried they're not getting enough nutrition? Well...yeah. That's the point of thinning the herd.

Can't. I'm the only one hunting most of it.....and I'm extremely lucky to be there, myself. Fickled landowners.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

If I were hungry or someone else I knew was, I would arrow a doe fawn. Other than that, I have NO desire to kill a fawn.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

What I find funny is some of the guys who say "Shoot what you want" for a buck, get all manly about shooting a fawn
So what is it guys? I have no desire to kill a 1.5 buck, and it's about as challenging as shooting a fawn during the rut, LOL

If it's legal why do so many care[&:] You think a wolf says "Too small"?

It's a choice of the hunter.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I'd need a tag and one within myeffectiverange.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Thought you were trying to get it more in balence. Didn't know you were over carrying capicity. Is it the same way on the other property you gained permission on? Waht you going to do if your hunting different area's now? Going to be hard to make your "goals" if your on different properties too.

Haven't you invited a a bunch of members to hunt there? I know how it is to have fickled property owners.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

If I were you I'd pick up the gun too, and really put some deer down.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I am.

It is.

I don't know, yet....but I doubt it.

I realize that. I've asked this myself. I have to make a choice.

I've invited a "few". I've hunted with two of them. There will be more.;)

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

A DEER IS A DEER AN THEY ALL TASTE GOOD

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Good post ....... but who says "shoot what you want" and then gets manly about shooting a fawn? Please dont make me read all those pages :eek:

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

He's from the darkside, LOL

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I guess if we wanted to make it challenging we could make them try to shoot a doe fawn with a Ross.[:-];)










Ohhhhhhhhhhhh did I say that out loud??????????????????????????

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I kill doe fawns just because i'm a mean SOB and all my baby chick stomping tags are all filled.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Same, if they're dumb enough to walk in front of me they aren't smart enough to be allowed to breed anyway.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I skipped all the pages right to the end because it is an easy answer for me, and I don't care what others do or think. For me, all it takes is for one to wander in range for a good shot (and it not be during the prime time rut). Why? Because I go into the woods and sit in a tree to kill a deer, because I have a tag for it, and because removing a doe is a benefit to the overall health of the herd.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I'll shoot'em if I can tell 100% their not a button buck. I'll even take 100 yard running shot at em just to level the playing field a bit.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

I don't like to shoot yearling animals, period. I try to harvest the game that has the same amount of experience I have.

I'll smoke a 1.5 year old doe all day long. But they get a pass for being a yearling in my neck of the woods.

IMO, it is like killing the birds that nest in my wreaths. They have no experience. I hunt for mature animals because it is hard. Really hard. If I want good meat, I shoot a doe (Do this anyway for herd purposes).

You do what you want, I do what I want, GAME ON.

RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
 

Icall......there's nothing dumber IMO than a 1.5 yr old buck....lol (yearling).:D

At least a fawn's usually with someone a lot smarter than him/her to help look out for them. A 1.5 yr old buck usually wears targets with a huge 12 ring in the middle that reads "KILL ME, PLEASE".;)