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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I just LOVE to one that tell you that you're less of a man if you don't do it the way that they do it. It's like being in Jr. High again. I'll say it like I've always said it "I'm 44 years old and I'll shoot whatever makes ME happy and you're welcome to do the same".
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Good post there NEW61375. It is rediculous for hunter's to always worry about what will "peta/the non-hunting public" think regarding legal hunting activities
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
In my mind Any body that has to resort to shooting doe fawns for meat never evenhad a man card, most likely drives a mini van with a "baby on board" window sticker, sings Tuesday night Karaoke and drinks girls lite.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
"IF" you're gonna shoot what you want (i.e. juvenile bucks)....."THEN" don't complain about not seeing any bigger bucks. I'm one of those haven't shot a buck in three years but don't care if I let one walk and the guy down the ridge shoots it kinda guy. To be honest some of the reply's I've seen here against shooting a fawn are exactly the same as people with bucks. No challenge, your a baby, [8D]not a mature hunter and my favorite it's immoral. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
letting it go so it can grow has no point for fawn does. They only taste worse as time goes on. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
ORIGINAL: Charlie P letting it go so it can grow has no point for fawn does. They only taste worse as time goes on. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I killed one last year. I was on a managment hunt on a property with too many does. I was asked to kill a doe, any doe. I shot the first one I saw. It was very young, and it was very tender. I didn't shoot it for the meat, there wasn't much! But what there was sure was good. Would I do it again? Only if I were in the same situation, a managment hunt to thin the population of does on the property. I shot the first doe I saw because I only had one morning to get it done. I had spent the rest of my time on that hunt helping my nephew get his first deer. He killed a mature doe.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
thats cause you probably killing those corn eatin deer |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
At some point we have to realize that shooting deer whether it's a fawn doe, mature doe, small buck, big buck, or whatever, it is all part of conservation and our tradition. I mean we can debate all day about it, and it seems we have for days now, but really, why do any of you care what someone else shoots? I only care if it's on my property, and if I have guest that is seasoned and has killed lots of deer, I simply ask them not to shoot any small bucks, Id rather them shoot any doe on the land over that small buck, let him grow for next yr or the yr after. It's my lease and I make the rules!! I wouldn't tell GMMAT to shoot only mature does and big bucks, it's his property, I may not agree with it if he chose to shoot small ones, but it ain't my call. I have to agree with him that hunting is personal, and that we cannot dictate our values to others.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
ORIGINAL: Charlie P thats cause you probably killing those corn eatin deer |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I have to agree with him that hunting is personal, and that we cannot dictate our values to others. I hunted 46 times in 2006.....and saw 326 deer , from stand. Last year.....the numbers were down.....but in 48 sits I still saw 207 deer.....including 58 fawn sightings. Now....I could shoot every deer that walks by me......and in reality....a buck fawn will consume 2X the food a doe fawn does. I pick my battles. Hunt a season in my stand and tell me what you'd do. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Now....I could shoot every deer that walks by me......and in reality....a buck fawn will consume 2X the food a doe fawn does. I'm not doubting you, I just don't see how how two equally sized deer born hour apart would have such different food consumption. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Jim.....by the time December rolls around, here......the BB's are a LOT bigger than their mothers. When Rob was here in '06.....I had a doe and two fawns enter my set.....and I almost drew down on the doe. Turns out.....the biggest one of the three was the fawn (BB).
Here.....they are WAY bigger than their female siblings in record time. In actuality....I "meant" to put 1.5X. My mistake (and I know the 1.5X to be true). And I dont understand why we're talking about when they're born. They're born in May.....and they're at least 4 mos. old by the time my season rolls in. I don't think I shot one this year until it was probably 5 months old. I asked a LOT of questions before I adopted this practice.......and did some soul searching. I can live with my choice. TO ME.....it would be selfish not to kill them. It's not like I'm killing all of them.....or shooting them with spots. I picked up 3 of them out of the ditch at the end of my driveway last year. Whee I took 'em to.....I suppose the yotes ate 'em. I got a nice 'Thank You' card from the widow across the street after Christmas......for the "wonderful" ham I gave her from one of those fawns. ;) |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Jim.....by the time December rolls around, here......the BB's are a LOT bigger than their mothers. When Rob was here in '06.....I had a doe and two fawns enter my set.....and I almost drew down on the doe. Turns out.....the biggest one of the three was the fawn (BB). Here.....they are WAY bigger than their female siblings in record time. In actuality....I "meant" to put 1.5X. My mistake (and I know the 1.5X to be true). And I dont understand why we're talking about when they're born. They're born in May.....and they're at least 4 mos. old by the time my season rolls in. I don't think I shot one this year until it was probably 5 months old. I asked a LOT of questions before I adopted this practice.......and did some soul searching. I can live with my choice. TO ME.....it would be selfish not to kill them. It's not like I'm killing all of them.....or shooting them with spots. I picked up 3 of them out of the ditch at the end of my driveway last year. Whee I took 'em to.....I suppose the yotes ate 'em. I got a nice 'Thank You' card from the widow across the street after Christmas......for the "wonderful" ham I gave her from one of those fawns. ;) It takes a full year before any notable size differences between fawns. Thanks, Jim |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I can't say for sure on your area or state but up here in Minnesota the fawns are popping out in June also.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Here.....they are WAY bigger than their female siblings in record time. |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
If you have 2 deer come in here (late in the season).....and you shoot the biggest one.....chances are if it's a doe and a BB......you just shot the BB.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
hunger and an empty tag
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Round here the buck starts out bigger than a doe even while still an embyro and will be bigger all it's life. This explains why so many buttons are shot while the shooter thinks it's the mom to the smaller deer. As proof of the size difference I offer the following pic feom a doe I shot this year in late season. WARNING: The following pic is graphic of the embyo's that doe was carrying. If you wish not to see it don't scroll down. If someone still objects I will remove it or a mod can do so at his discretion.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The buck already has knobs for the antlers behind the ear knobs and overall already shows a size difference.  |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Rickmur
I've never seen an embryo in real life or pictured before. Thats pretty wild looking. I know that had to suck to find that upon dressing your deer. How late in the season are we talking? |
RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Mid January.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I shot a doe at the end of December that had a baby in it about that size last year. It kinda shocked me when I was cleaning her cause you never would of expected it that early. The farm I hunt has givin out crop damage permits this year so this is probaly going to be a regular occurance unfortunately. I would rather see them grow up a little but when you think of how hard a farmer has to work to make a living these days its all a big cycle of events. I guess we wouldnt have a problem if deer had more predators around this area to thin out the herds.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
An easy squeeze on my release.
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
I shot these little guys --------- with the camera !
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
Not much... I am not picky when it comes to shooting deer. I just get too darn excited...
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RE: What would it take to make you kill a doe fawn?
No spots. Best thing about Illinois is unlimited doe tags. I can shoot all the fawn does I want. Better tasting, tenderer and I can carry them out. A big difference between dragging 75 lbs and 125 lbs. Its harder for me to pass a fatfawn doe than a 130" buck.
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