2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
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#91
Ok my 2cents. First of all I dont remember her asking for any dm advice. So if its not your land he was on, get off his back. secondly, after the year this man has had, its nice to hear he found something to make him run around like a kid at xmas. So it wont make the "Hunting with (your name here)" video collection. Some of you are treating this man as if he poached these deer just because he didnt drop down and cry when he found out they were bb's. Congrats on the deer.
By the way do all you trophy hunters also let the legal, but "sub trophy" fish and birds go too? Or is this policy only in deer season?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
By the way do all you trophy hunters also let the legal, but "sub trophy" fish and birds go too? Or is this policy only in deer season?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
#92
Consider it a sermon if you will. I consider it something that really, REALLY needed to be said.
Let's recap what has happened with this thread. LadyBH comes on here to post about a successful hunt and it is very easy to tell that she is ecstatic for her father-in-law and some of these morons rain all over her parade because THEY consider shooting a button buck beneath THEM. I honestly can't remember ever reading anything that has pissed me off more than some of the posts on here.
If anyone wants to give advice, fine. You might try to do it with a little moral decency like some of the better members of this forum did. If I hurt any of your feelings GOOD!!!! as I'm sure your comments didn't do much for LadyBH's feelings either!
Let's recap what has happened with this thread. LadyBH comes on here to post about a successful hunt and it is very easy to tell that she is ecstatic for her father-in-law and some of these morons rain all over her parade because THEY consider shooting a button buck beneath THEM. I honestly can't remember ever reading anything that has pissed me off more than some of the posts on here.
If anyone wants to give advice, fine. You might try to do it with a little moral decency like some of the better members of this forum did. If I hurt any of your feelings GOOD!!!! as I'm sure your comments didn't do much for LadyBH's feelings either!
#93
grim reaper , 11-12-2002 08:36 AM
I would be glad to sum it up for you, some of us Johnny doo gooder wild life manager's don't have to shoot fawns to make our selves feel better and just to fill the freezer. To the people who say how challenging it is to kill fawns well he killed the second fawn becouse after he shot the first one the second on was too young and nieve to know what happened to the first one. I agree with the guy from texas at bow hunting range you should be able to tell if it's a button buck. If he want's to shoot them fine but don't come here looking for respect and act like your some big shot. I don't care where you hunt or what state you live in you can wait for a mature deer every state in the us has more mature deer than fawns. I waited for a mature deer when I was a kid and my son will too. I don't see the sense in saying ahhh if your new to hunting just shoot a fawn WHY? WHY can't you wait for a mature deer. In that case your just shooting a fawn to say ahhh look at me I got my first deer it dressed out at 60 lbs. I have no problem with some one shooting a leagal deer but please don't come with up bull s#it about how shooting fawns is sound deer management. I have never seen the big rancher's say go out and shoot one those management fawns boy's we need to thin em out a little. Some of you guy's just come up with excuses for any thing. Good luck with bambi this year guy's I hope ya all fill you tags with those monster 60lb button bucks I am sure the local taxerdermist will be flooded with work.
#94
Straightarrow , 11-12-2002 08:40 AM
Stickemup,
I dont' really disagree with what much of what you said. But, what the heck is wrong with wanting to manage the herd and questioning some management practices?
I never said he shouldn't shoot a button buck. I said if it's legal and someone wants to, then go ahead. I simply guestioned the statement that, killing buttons was good for the herd. I was trying to find out the rational behind that. Then you get on here and start name calling and putting down those of us who do want to manage the herd. You are acting no different than those who are putting this guy down for shooting buttons.
I dont' really disagree with what much of what you said. But, what the heck is wrong with wanting to manage the herd and questioning some management practices?
I never said he shouldn't shoot a button buck. I said if it's legal and someone wants to, then go ahead. I simply guestioned the statement that, killing buttons was good for the herd. I was trying to find out the rational behind that. Then you get on here and start name calling and putting down those of us who do want to manage the herd. You are acting no different than those who are putting this guy down for shooting buttons.
#95
I was going to stay out of this, but just can't! first congrats to your father on the deer. ANY deer taken with a bow is somthing to be proud of. I have shot button bucks, and will probably shoot one again. If given a choice I would shoot the bigger doe, but thier is NOTHING wrong with shooting any legal deer you wish. If you do it within the law. Hey I take what I can get for the first deer or two of the year, and then I get pickey. I have been blessed in that I have been a fairly successful bowhunter, and deerhunter in general, but when I take someone out for their first deer, I tell them to shoot the first legal animal they can. Davidmil has the right Idea with that. I do agree with the others in that proper bow tuning will help solve the broadhead flight problems and I cringe everytime I hear someone say "use a mechanical becuase you won't have to tune your bow"<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>Nothing could be farther from the truth, and that is one of the reasons mechanical heads have had recieved so much "bad press". Again though congrats on the deer and some very fine eating!
TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS
TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS
#96
Grim Reaper, that's the dumbest post of the day, congratulations!
1) Nobody said it's very challenging to kill fawns, they said those little buggers are tasty!
2)The man didn't come looking for respect, OR acting like a big shot, his daughter-in-law came to share a great story with us of a new bowhunter's success. Hopefully she learned something to pass on about tuning a bow. You're the one with the ego problem.
3)They're not mounting the buttons, they're eating them, some hunt for tasty venison, you're the one who wants a set of horns to brag on, and act like a big man.
4) You haven't been around many ranches, have ya? Most offer antlerless shoots in the winter, after you big shots go home. You can get some good deals on a package for 2-3 antlerless deer, usually, and in some states, they'll tack on hogs, ect. Yes, they shoot the fawns, the does, any deer without a rack.
Straightarrow, I interpret it the same way.
Done with this thread..
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
1) Nobody said it's very challenging to kill fawns, they said those little buggers are tasty!
2)The man didn't come looking for respect, OR acting like a big shot, his daughter-in-law came to share a great story with us of a new bowhunter's success. Hopefully she learned something to pass on about tuning a bow. You're the one with the ego problem.
3)They're not mounting the buttons, they're eating them, some hunt for tasty venison, you're the one who wants a set of horns to brag on, and act like a big man.
4) You haven't been around many ranches, have ya? Most offer antlerless shoots in the winter, after you big shots go home. You can get some good deals on a package for 2-3 antlerless deer, usually, and in some states, they'll tack on hogs, ect. Yes, they shoot the fawns, the does, any deer without a rack.
Straightarrow, I interpret it the same way.
Done with this thread..
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
#99
grim reaper , 11-12-2002 09:15 AM
SPIKEY open mouth insert foot.#1 Go back put your glasses on and read yes a FEW not just one person in this thread did say that. So don't give me your stupid comments.
#2 Lady didn't come here looking for repect but other's that posted in this thread made comment's such as I have shot em before and I'll do it again and They are very tender and tasty. So yes they are saying they like shooting fawns and will keep doing it. It sure sounds to me like they enjoy and are happy with doing this.
#3 I was being sarcastic about them mounting them. The one's who say it's such a challenge to kill fawns well why not get their big kill mounted so they can remember how thrilling it was to kill it.
#4 Yes I have been to a few managed deer properties and WHILE YES THEY DO HARVEST DOE'S I can assure you no outfitter would be happy about one of his hunter's that are supposed to be takeing management doe's shooting a fawn button buck. So once again you have served a nice pile of sh!t on silver plater. Why in god's green earth would a rancher want to take a button buck that will potentialy make him 2 or 3 thousand dollars in a few year's when it grows up? He wouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of all the tv. shows even that I see where they were shooting management deer yes I seen them take doe's and yes I have seen them take rack buck's but never a fawn.
Please if you can't come up with any thing better why bother. You try to make a case by saying they remove antlerless deer but you know as well as I they try to remove mature doe's not button buck's.
#2 Lady didn't come here looking for repect but other's that posted in this thread made comment's such as I have shot em before and I'll do it again and They are very tender and tasty. So yes they are saying they like shooting fawns and will keep doing it. It sure sounds to me like they enjoy and are happy with doing this.
#3 I was being sarcastic about them mounting them. The one's who say it's such a challenge to kill fawns well why not get their big kill mounted so they can remember how thrilling it was to kill it.
#4 Yes I have been to a few managed deer properties and WHILE YES THEY DO HARVEST DOE'S I can assure you no outfitter would be happy about one of his hunter's that are supposed to be takeing management doe's shooting a fawn button buck. So once again you have served a nice pile of sh!t on silver plater. Why in god's green earth would a rancher want to take a button buck that will potentialy make him 2 or 3 thousand dollars in a few year's when it grows up? He wouldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of all the tv. shows even that I see where they were shooting management deer yes I seen them take doe's and yes I have seen them take rack buck's but never a fawn.
Please if you can't come up with any thing better why bother. You try to make a case by saying they remove antlerless deer but you know as well as I they try to remove mature doe's not button buck's.
#100
OK I have to throw in my comments here. I am not going to even begin to comment about shooting the buttons, that's been beat here and I just don't feel further comment about that part will do any good. THe part that really bugs me is shooting and missing 6 deer, going out and grabbing some mech's to make up for poor prepartion in the preseason. That is a more glaring problem than what he actually shot. a person must enter the wooods knowing they can kill a deer within a preset range, not just hope thye can hit something.